[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)

In message <E1h6E3W-00051F-BF at www-apps-1.ripe.net>, Marco Schmidt
<mschmidt at ripe.net> writes

>The goal of this proposal is to define that BGP hijacking is not accepted as 
>normal practice within the RIPE NCC service region.
>
>You can find the full proposal at:
>https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-03

<quote>

The announcement of unallocated address space to third parties is also
considered a policy violation and is evaluated according to the same
parameters.

</quote>

This is going to be somewhat challenging ... since there are a
substantial number of well-known (and generally non-abusive entities)
who are announcing unallocated address space, and in many cases they
have been doing so for years on end.

I understand there is a mixture of long term disputes about allocations;
failures to keep contact addresses up-to-date (so that allocations are
withdrawn) and doubtless also intentional usage of resources that have
not been allocated.

Geoff Huston publishes a list on a daily basis:

        http://www.cidr-report.org/as2.0/#Bogons

For the avoidance of doubt, I think it is most undesirable that any
prefix appears on the list -- but I am pragmatic enough to accept that
there are significant difficulties in dealing with the complexities
which are behind those announcements.


BTW: Geoff Huston's data gathering exercise also identifies the usage of
AS numbers that are not currently allocated. Again, much of this usage
is very long standing and failure to "grandfather it in" in some manner
is likely to cause a substantial workload and the deeming of many
legitimate companies to be in breach of RIPE norms -- which is going to
tend to make the impact of the policy rather less than might be hoped.

That all said -- why does the proposed policy not address the misuse of
AS numbers as well as the misuse of prefixes ?

-- 
richard                                                   Richard Clayton

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary 
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov 1755
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