[anti-abuse-wg] AS24940 Hetzner -- non-role contact wanted

ac <ac at main.me> wrote:

>I also do not transmit, empower or relay any unsolicited bulk email.

I should start by expressing my appreciation for the fact that you have
attempted to provide an answer, even if it was to a rather different
question from the one I asked.

I've been fighting to get spammers off the Internet for more than 20 years
now, and have had many many conversations with many of them, over the years.
And you know, it's a funny thing...  not a single one of them over all
these years would ever admit that his spams were "unsolicited" in any
sense whatsoever.  Many humorously asserted that even if some third
party had, against the recipient's will and without even the recipient's
knowledge, put the recipient's email address into some Internet-accessible
data base, that this somehow constituted a "soliicitation" to be spammed
with the wonderful and irresistable commercial offers, all supplied totally
free of charge, and by the courtesy of the spammer himself, of course.

Anyway, I'll be happy to debate you, at length, as I have done with so
many others, over lo these many years, regarding the precise and proper
definition of the word "solicit" or "solicited", but I think that we can
set that aside for the moment and return to the question that I actually
did ask, which is whether or not you are involved in doing bulk emailing,
period.

There's really no rush.  By all means, please take your time and think about
your answer before providing it.  If there's one thing that the years have
taught me it is patience,  and I'm willing to wait as long as it takes for
an answer to the this question that I did actually ask, which is JUST
whether or not you are a bulk emailer, or a provider of bulk emailing
services.

But actually, since you seem to be a bit reluctant to provide an answer
to that question... at least one which does not come joined to a set of
qualifiers and caveats... let's just set that whole question aside for
the time being.  We can return to it later on.

At the present moment, I'd really rather ask you an entirely different and
totally unrelated question.

I have just been reviewing the RIPE Code of Conduct for mailing lists, and
specifically these sections:

   https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/ripe-mailing-list-ripe-forum-code-of-conduct

      RIPE community members should not spam mailing lists, post others'
      personal information, register multiple accounts to avoid moderation
      or mislead participants, impersonate others, or make threats. Overt
      marketing or promotional activities are discouraged.

      Chairs are responsible for facilitating and moderating the RIPE
      community's discussions. At times they may direct an individual to
      cease a certain type of behaviour. Chairs have the authority to
      moderate or ban disruptive community members if they decide this
      is necessary.

I'd just like to ask you if you are in agreement with the above quoted
passages of the RIPE CoC.  Do you agree that that the rules quoted above
should, can, and do apply to this mailing list, and specifically the part
about "misleading participants" and the part that says that the Chair has
authority enforce the CoC, as and when the Chair deems it approropriate?

Do you agree that the Chair has, and should by all rights have such authority?
do you submit yourself to that unilateral authority of the WG Chair, just as
the rest of us have done?

Forgive me.  I don't intend to be mysterious at all about the reason for these
questions.  Here's the thing.  I've been on this list for multiple years now
and I've noticed that pretty much everyone who posts to the list does so
using their full name, first, last, and, quite often, middle name or at
least middle initial, as I do.  Pretty much everyone except you.

Why is that, exactly?


Regards,
rfg