[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:

> Fat fingers,

...we all have it :-)


> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 3:17 AM Töma Gavrichenkov <ximaera at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Honestly, I think it's the opposite. If the NCC terminates a
>> membership agreement, it should be liable for all the consequences of
>> a wrong decision no matter how exactly the decision is made and what
>> arbiters/experts/oracles/grandmoms were asked for a definitive advice.
>
> .., because if it turns out that the experts or oracles prepared a bad
> advice, it would be the NCC's responsibility for not choosing a better
> set of experts of oracles.

This sounds a bit far fetched to me...
I think it's not the NCC's role to select people, it should be the 
community's...


> In any case, an individual won't be able to compensate a financial
> damage

Liability insurance? (yes, i know... cost)


> of an average ISP being shut down anyway, so it must be an org,
> and highly unlikely it could be that individual's employer.

Does a RIPE NCC Service Agreement termination mean that an ISP or a 
company is necessarily shutdown...???

The NCC's membership base is not exclusively formed by ISPs to start 
with...

If someone doesn't abide by the rules, and needs to keep supplying 
services to 3rd parties, it can resort to other LIR's services.
Yes, that will at least imply a renumbering, which means added cost, but 
it will not necessarily mean the company will face a shutdown.


Regards,
Carlos


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