[anti-abuse-wg] abuse of the internet by multinationals and nation states

Okay my "vast" majority was a bit misleading. I meant the majority of users/companies already in whois :-)
So just the natural persons remain. But why should their right on their private data not count? Again do not want to defend whois hiding. But is still an important question which right overweights the other. 
Just because some bad guys hide behind privacy service whois that does not mean everyone who wants to hide their whois is a criminal.

Cheers

tobi


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Von: John Levine <johnl at taugh.com>
Gesendet: 05.05.18 - 16:21
An: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
Betreff: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] abuse of the internet by multinationals and nation states

> In article <60cf421.bf1cb7eb.163301149ea at gmx.ch> you write:
>>I don't want to defend whois hiding but you forget to mention that this does not only help criminals to hide but also
>>protects (a bit at least) the privacy of the wast majority of "uncriminal" normal users.
> 
> To point out the obvious, the vast majority of "uncriminal" normal
> users do not have personal domains so their information would never
> appear in WHOIS in the first place, and the vast majority of domains
> are registered by organizations which have no privacy rights, not
> natural persons who do.
> 
> We've been pointing this out for a decade to academics who imagine
> themselves to be privacy advocates.  They have consistently stuck
> their fingers in their ears "la la I don't hear you" so I doubt it'll
> be any more effective this time.
> 
> Regards,
> John Levine, johnl at iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
>