[anti-abuse-wg] Decision on Proposal 2017-02

Hi Brian,

I take the opportunity to also respond to your question.

I would prefer a more "real" test of the email, however agree with other comments that it is much better to move on with the actual policy proposal if we are able to reach consensus, and maybe improve it with new proposals in the future.

Regards,
Jordi
 
-----Mensaje original-----
De: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> en nombre de Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie>
Fecha: jueves, 15 de marzo de 2018, 18:08
Para: "Sascha Luck [ml]" <aawg at c4inet.net>, "anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net" <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
Asunto: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Decision on Proposal 2017-02

    Sascha,
    
    Thank you for your input. Could you, during this phase, be a little clearer in regards to your reasons for objection. This is really a question for everyone contributing.
    
    For instance, what about the suggested implementation is onerous or oppressive?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Brian
    Co-Chair, RIPE AA-wG
    
    Brian Nisbet 
    Network Operations Manager
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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of
    > Sascha Luck [ml]
    > Sent: Thursday 15 March 2018 17:04
    > To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
    > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Decision on Proposal 2017-02
    > 
    > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 03:33:42PM +0100, Sander Steffann wrote:
    > >This proposal is a first step to catch low hanging fruit. Yes: there
    > >are many things that can (should) be improved, but getting consensus on
    > >these controversial topics is difficult. So the proposers are taking it
    > >one step at a time. Based on the discussion on this mailing list those
    > >steps apparently have to be very small, but at least there is the
    > >possibility of movement :)
    > 
    > Correctly and perfectly summarised. A textbook example of early-stage frog-
    > boiling.
    > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog
    > 
    > The road to oppressive and onerous regulation is taken a small step at a time
    > in the 21st century and that's why it is important to resist such attempts NOW
    > while it is possible to do so without great personal sacrifice.
    > 
    > For the avoidance of doubt, the above constitutes (continuing) opposition to
    > 2017-02.
    > 
    > rgds,
    > Sascha Luck
    > 
    
    
    



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