[anti-abuse-wg] 2017-02 New Policy Proposal (Regular abuse-c Validation)

Dear Sergey,

Thank you for your question. These are the kinds of things that our formal impact analysis will cover in the Review Phase. This is the best time to explore these topics in more depth.

However, our initial understanding is that the proposal aims to identify and fix invalid abuse-mailbox contact information. The RIPE NCC would contact resource holders and help them to update their information if necessary. Only if an organisation was unresponsive or uncooperative over a long period would we consider invoking the current closure procedure detailed in ripe-676, "Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet Resources". You can find this document here:
https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-676

It is important to note that the RIPE NCC has always been careful when invoking this procedure, and does so only as a last resort. We would continue to apply the same level of caution if this policy proposal is accepted.

In its current version, the policy change would only apply to RIPE NCC members and holders of Independent Resources. "Abuse Contact Management in the RIPE Database" does not apply to legacy holders, so they would be unaffected. A recent policy proposal (2016-01) tried to add a requirement for legacy holders to have an abuse contact, but it did not reach consensus:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2016-01

Kind regards,
Marco Schmidt
Policy Development Officer
RIPE NCC

On 2017-09-07 14:13:04 CET, Sergey Myasoedov wrote:
> Hi Marco,
> 
> Thank you for the very good proposal.
> 
> The one of opposing arguments is:
> 
> > If organisations are not cooperative, the RIPE NCC ultimately has the possibility to
> > close their RIPE NCC membership and deregister their Internet number resources.
> 
> How RIPE NCC is going to deal with not cooperative members/PI holders/Legacy holders?
> I don't see anything in the proposal text. Is there any grounds for terminating membership
> and/or deregistering resources?
> 
> 
> --
> Kind regards,
> Sergey Myasoedov
> 


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