[anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: RBL policy

as for smtp being alive.. out of 4 billion ips some 200k run an smtp 
server... still a lot more than ftp (including badly configured printers 
and security cameras).. but considering it's a protocol that was 
supposed to run on each and every workstation. it's dead.

facebook has more users per second than smtp has mails per year. lol.


On 30 ينا, 2017 م 01:13, ox wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:01:46 +0000
> HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker <svenk at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> no not all dnsbls are a problem. none of the other ones block
>> non-directly related prefixes as a means of extortion into complete
>> breach of contract. there are some 110 of them last time we checked.
>> we only were on the 2 operated by spamhaus. :P
>> so by far... pretty much all dnsbl's list the ips that originate the
>> 'undesired' traffic, which stops it from
>> reaching those that use their service, and that's where it ends for
>> them... that's perfectly acceptable.
>> (as long as it's the actual end user making the decision to use their
>> 'filtering' or not)
>>
> Okay, got it, thank you for that
>
>> howeverrrrr... then there is spamhaus...
>>
> yeah, but it will show good manners if you make a new thread about
> that?
>   
>> as for the ripe mailinglist being smtp... yes. it unfortunately still
>> is.. and it's about the ONLY thing that still needs smtp, next to
>> signing up to habbo hotel. lol. i haven't started the mail client for
>> anything else in years. lol. face it: smtp is dead, the reason it is
>> dead: is spamhaus itself. making it unreliable. mainly.
>>
> we will have to agree to disagree (or not agree - with the same
> result :) )
>
> smtp - 2017 my pov (and own stats) There has never been so much legit
> traffic sent ever...
>
> Easy to check though as everyone on here has their own stats and to
> quickly analize 25 vs say 80 (wow - and 443 is just as crazy in terms of
> growth as 25!)  in 2015 as compared to 2016 - smtp is alive and kicking
> (so is 443!)
>
> Andre
>