[anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: RBL policy

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:01:46 +0000
HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker <svenk at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> no not all dnsbls are a problem. none of the other ones block 
> non-directly related prefixes as a means of extortion into complete 
> breach of contract. there are some 110 of them last time we checked.
> we only were on the 2 operated by spamhaus. :P
> so by far... pretty much all dnsbl's list the ips that originate the 
> 'undesired' traffic, which stops it from
> reaching those that use their service, and that's where it ends for 
> them... that's perfectly acceptable.
> (as long as it's the actual end user making the decision to use their 
> 'filtering' or not)
> 
Okay, got it, thank you for that

> howeverrrrr... then there is spamhaus...
>
yeah, but it will show good manners if you make a new thread about
that?
 
> as for the ripe mailinglist being smtp... yes. it unfortunately still 
> is.. and it's about the ONLY thing that still needs smtp, next to 
> signing up to habbo hotel. lol. i haven't started the mail client for 
> anything else in years. lol. face it: smtp is dead, the reason it is 
> dead: is spamhaus itself. making it unreliable. mainly.
> 
we will have to agree to disagree (or not agree - with the same
result :) ) 

smtp - 2017 my pov (and own stats) There has never been so much legit
traffic sent ever... 

Easy to check though as everyone on here has their own stats and to
quickly analize 25 vs say 80 (wow - and 443 is just as crazy in terms of
growth as 25!)  in 2015 as compared to 2016 - smtp is alive and kicking
(so is 443!)

Andre