[anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Charter

In message <e6dccd6b-a4d4-6900-b6ba-8389a4adb934 at ripe.net>, 
Ingrid Wijte <ingrid at ripe.net> wrote:

>The RIPE NCC does not disclose non-public information on a voluntary 
>basis. We are unable to share this with the working group.

Ms. Wijte,

Let us be clear about this.  We are discussing seven cases from 2015 and
2016 in which some legal entity behaved so badly that it actually had
its membership terminated by RIPE NCC for non-financial reasons.  As you
have already stipulated, these entities are not natural persons, and thus,
EU personal privacy regulations do not apply to any of these cases.
Separately and additionally, you have stated that RIPE NCC is under no
ongoing legal obligation whatsoever with respect to these seven entities.

More to the point however, although RIPE NCC may indeed wish, as a matter
of policy, to refrain from disclosing "non-public information", any such
policy is obviously, demonstratably, and utterly irrelevant to the request
I have made.

I am compelled to call your attention to the fact that within essentially
all of the countries that comprise the RIPE geographical region,
governmental records of the legitimate existance of legally established
business and non-profit entities... including even RIPE NCC itself...
are in fact open public records.  Thus, it would appear, RIPE NCC legal
staff is now placing itself in the rather awkard position of refusing
to release records which, by their very nature, are public governmental
records, i.e. those which merely attest to the bare legal existance of
these seven former, and now terminated, RIPE NCC members.

Given these facts, I ask you again to provide to the Anti-Abuse Working
Group the various bona fides documents which these seven dubious "legal"
entities used when they originally applied for their now terminated
RIPE NCC memberships.

There is no compelling reason, either as a matter of law, or as a matter
of policy, for RIPE NCC legal staff to deliberately withhold what are in
fact public governmental records and documents.  Should the RIPE NCC legal
staff continue to do so, then I believe that action will call into question
the legal staff's true motivations with respect to this matter.  Thus, I
reiterate my request yet again, and ask you, in your capacity as a
representative of the RIPE NCC legal staff, to provide these documents
to the Working Group without further delay.


Regards,
rfg