[anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Charter

Hi Ronald,

The RIPE NCC does not disclose non-public information on a voluntary 
basis. We are unable to share this with the working group.

Kind regards
Ingrid Wijte


On 18/08/2016 23:57, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> Ms. Wijte,
>
> Thanks so much for your further reply.  I think that I have just one
> last question...
>
> In message <8cf746fe-be8a-4782-8213-7ce7d01d6908 at ripe.net>,
> Ingrid Wijte <ingrid at ripe.net> wrote:
>
>> We can confirm that of these seven terminations {2015/2016}, none
>> involved members who were natural persons.
> OK.  Good.  That's what I suspected might be the case.
>
>> In accordance with article 9.5 of the Standard Service Agreement, when a
>> membership is terminated we cease providing any RIPE NCC services and
>> begin the deregistration procedure according to section B. of “Closure
>> of Members, Deregistration of Internet Resources and Legacy Internet
>> Resources”. Once the resources have been deregistered, we have no
>> further contact or relationship with them and neither party has any
>> ongoing duty to the other*.
> OK.  Good.  That's what I suspected might be the case.
>
> So, given that (a) none of the seven RIPE NCC members who were terminated
> for non-financial reasons in 2015 & 2016 (a) were "natural persons",
> also also (b) that RIPE NCC owes -no- ongoing duty of care to any of
> these seven terminated member entities, would it be possible for RIPE NCC
> to release, e.g to the Anti-Abuse Working Group, copies of the various bona
> fide documents relating to just these seven non-financially-terminated
> former members, e.g. so that members of the Anti-Abuse Working Group
> could study them, e.g. to look for patterns which might help to reduce
> future problems and incidents of the kind(s) that were caused by these
> seven former (and now terminated) members?
>
>
> Regards,
> rfg
>