[anti-abuse-wg] Definition of Abuse

In message <30F4A3CE-4188-4E10-BD70-410EC05BF993 at gmail.com>, 
Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

>Ron has presented several issues as he sees them. It is now up to ripe ncc to
>see what action if any to take on this cidr based on, say, inaccurate
>information presented in the paperwork.

Just two small clarifications:

1) First, Suresh, you said "this cidr" (singular).  Just to clarify, my
concern is actually with all of these:

ORANGEWEB:
82.221.102.192/26
82.221.103.208/29
82.221.104.0/25
82.221.130.64/26
213.182.41.144/29
213.182.41.160/28
213.215.7.36/30
213.215.14.44/30

IS-ORANGEWEBSITE:
82.221.104.128/29
82.221.105.0/24
82.221.106.224/29
82.221.108.32/28
82.221.111.0/24
82.221.128.0/23
82.221.131.0/24
82.221.133.128/25
82.221.134.0/29
82.221.136.0/24
82.221.139.0/24
82.221.143.0/24

All of the above are registered to the same single alleged Belize company,
however as far as I have been able to determine, there exists no public
registry of Belize companies, and the Belize governmental Companies
Registry office does not even respond to email inquiries, which leaves
open the question of what sorts of magic, astrology, witchcraft, or the
reading the the entrails of disembowled routers RIPE NCC staff members
employ when they attempt to merely verify the legal existance of such
companies... mysterious procedures which all of us mere unwashed mortals
are apparently not privy to, unless one happens to know the secret
handshake, I guess.

This is all about as transparent as concrete.


2)  I actually don't anticipate RIPE NCC doing anything ay all about any
of this for the simple reason that I haven't personally filed a formal
"complaint" about any of this, nor am I at all likely to do so.  Thus,
RIPE NCC staff has no basis, at present, upon which to take any action
whatsoever.

I haven't and won't file a "complaint" about any of this because, I mean,
who wants to be either known as, or treated as an annoying "complainer"?
I sure don't.

I object to the entire notion of a "complaint form".  If I want to fill
out one of those, I'll go down and stand in line at the DMV.

If there ever comes to be such a thing as a RIPE "report form" however,
I may use it someday to alert community members and RIPE NCC staff
about things that I think the community would benefit from looking at
more closely.  But it is not my intent to *force* anyone in either
RIPE NCC or the RIPE community to look at stuff they might benefit
from looking at.  I've donated a great deal of personal time to trying
to find the truth, for the benefit of Internet users everywhere.  If
people in authority @ RIPE NCC don't want to look at what I've found,
then I'm not gonna go jamming it down anybody's throat via a "complainers
form".  This isn't Walmart and I refuse to stand in the "complainers"
line or to be labeled as a "complainer" just because I selflessly
tried to do something good for my fellow homo sapiens.

In fact, I only even posted the specifics of what I believe is shady
about OrangeWebHost in response to Dave Crocker's request for people
to post examples of what they, as individuals, perceive as "abuse".


Regards,
rfg