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[anti-abuse-wg] Definition of Abuse
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andre at ox.co.za
andre at ox.co.za
Mon Aug 15 14:30:45 CEST 2016
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:22:36 +0000 Erik Bais <erik at bais.name> wrote: > Hi Andre, > What I tried to explain ( sorry for not being brief ..) : > Abuse in certain cases, might be good or wrong in the eye of the > beholder ... depending on their point of view and the goal to > achieve. > "What is normal for the spider, is chaos for the fly ... " - quote > this is so very true Erik :) > And certain cultural induced morals might be different, than in other > places in the region ... which would also explain why certain type of > abuse / crime is more prominent or originating from certain locations > than others.. > I'm not saying or implying that we as a community should 'allow' > everything, but more that we look at how to protect ourselves against > the issues and see if there is a way to learn in that from each > other. Especially if we are looking at how to deal with issues that > would violate the non sanctioned use of a resource.. > > The non sanctioned use of a resource might be a flexible definition. > Gert Doering said it best, "Complicated" I think the start is to find a definition of abuse, then there is more of a playing field in terms of any real or valuable discussions. For myself, I am still figuring out if what I though abuse was, is still what I expect it to be.. I am quite sure that, as an example, someone having pornography on their hard drive - is not abuse, in my country, it is perfectly legal (in my country of birth, not so much) but in other countries, other societies it may be criminal. On the other hand, my wife would definitely consider me having porn on my hard drive, as abuse/abusive. (no, I do not have any porn, or even any views either way on porn, and I am simply using it as a silly, but workable, example) So, we are still at: The non sanctioned use of a resource to infringe upon the usage rights of another resource Andre
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