[anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Contact Finder is not checking admin-c from org object?

Hello Piotr,

Thanks for reply!

You are absolutely right! I was using first resource to verify my changes.
So as I understood my current DB information is OK from RIPE's point of view 
and the tool is not processing it correctly. 
And from the rest of Your message I understood that it wise to duplicate abuse 
contact in org: object as abuse-mailbox: attribute until everything will 
settle down right?

Thanks!
-- 
Best regards
Levon Avagyan
Core network engineer
Ucom LLC

On Thursday 13 February 2014 13:37:23 Piotr Strzyzewski wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 01:46:20PM +0400, Levon Avagyan wrote:
> 
> Dear Levon
> 
> > I need some help with proper setup of RIPE DB.
> > I am currently updating our records and noticed that if i am adding ROLE
> > abuse-c: "UCAB101-RIPE" with abuse-mailbox: "abuse at ucom.am" attribute to
> > our org :"ORG-UL31-RIPE" object, it is not showing up in "Abuse Contact
> > Finder" tool in Ripe Stat. It shows me message: "No contact information
> > found for 44395"
> > While if i am adding abuse-mailbox: attribute to org: object directly, it
> > finds abuse contact just fine, however gives us 4/5 stars.
> > 
> > Is it a known bug or am i doing something wrong?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > P.S.
> > Query: "whois as44395" returns abuse contact just fine.
> 
> Short answer: Don't use it. ;)
> 
> I assume that the tool you are using is this one:
> https://stat.ripe.net/special/abuse
> 
> The correct one is this one:
> http://apps.db.ripe.net/search/abuse-finder.html
> 
> However, the first one (from Ripe Stat) is still widely used due the
> fact that abuse-c is not fully deployed yet. Among others, the notable
> Abusix.org claims to use it.
> 
> If I understand
> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/Paul_P_/content-abuse-finder correctly,
> this tool doesn't look at aut-num at all. Please corect me if I'm wrong.
> 
> Moreover, this tool is full of false positives, no matter of how many
> stars it will show at the end. For example - it was just two weeks ago
> when I have deliberately created the situation that for not mine and not
> maintained by me inetnum I have forced this tool to claim with 4/5 stars
> that abuse at example.net is the contact information. Right now this is
> impossible, since I have notified about this the RIPE NCC and this tool
> is filtering the RFC-2606 dummy addresses out. Unfortunately, this was
> just one of examples.
> 
> Best regards,
> Piotr