[anti-abuse-wg] The Rules

Hi,

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:58:32PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> In message <20130627111402.GZ2706 at Space.Net>, 
> Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
> 
> >> Assume for the sake of argument that I received a /21 from some RIPE
> >> LiR one year ago.  Assume that I never put _anything_ in it.  Assume
> >> that RIPE NCC "audits" me.  What happens, exactly?
> >
> >If you got the /21 *from a LIR*, you will not be audited, because you're
> >not dealing with the NCC.
> >
> >If you *are* a LIR, and as that LIR have received a /21, the NCC will try
> >to ensure that whatever you registered is OK
> 
> Please definie the meaning of "OK" in this context.

Technically OK, as in "no overlaps in the network objects", policy-wise
OK, as in "no assignments bigger than permitted by your assignment window",
and sometimes they ask for the justification documents for a given 
assignment, aka "the form that needs to be filled in".

> >if you have never registered
> >anything, nothing will happen, unless they find lies in your contractual
> >information (company doesn't exist, etc.) - in *that* case they will
> >close down the LIR and take back the space.
> 
> So, if I am understanding you correctly, if, say, a given LIR obtained,
> say, a /17 two years ago, and then just sat on it, and never put a
> single thing in it in all that time, there is nothing that can or will
> be done about that colossal waste of (supposedly) precious IPv4 space.
> Is that correct?  Have I understood you correctly?

Yes.  

(Though I disagree with you on the preciousness of IPv4 space.  Reclaiming
even a full /8 would have pushed out the IPv4 run-out in the RIPE region
by a few months, but not changed the fundamental issue of "there is no
way to make IPv4 last")

> And likewise, if said hypothetical LIR obtained the same hypothetical /17
> two years ago, and since that time has allocated it to a "customer" who
> then proceeded to fill it only with a single physical machine and on
> the order of 32,000 utterly phony baloney domain names, either for the
> purpose of snowshoe spamming or for the purpose of so-called "blackhat
> SEO", then there is nothing that anybody within RIPE, or within RIPE NCC,
> or anywhere in all the world either may or will do about that.  Is that
> a correct interpretation of what you have said?

Yes.

Gert Doering
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