[anti-abuse-wg] New Abuse Information on RIPE NCC Website

Ronald,

I'm going to snip a lot of this mail, but there's a core issue I'd like 
to address.

> Now, imagine for a moment that The Duchy of Grand Fenwick (google it) has
> just passed a law _requiring_ all of its citizens to spam.  What is RIPE
> going to do?  Issue each citizen of Grand Fenwick his or her own /24?
> In short, at what point does respect for the individuality and authority
> of the constituent nations and municipalities of the entire RIPE region
> cross over into unambiguous lunacy?

It's an interesting hypothetical, certainly. There are a number of 
possible options. The first is that the EU, or just the Netherlands, 
became aware of this and said "These people are bad, EU companies may 
not trade with them". The RIPE NCC operates under Dutch law, so they 
would be forced to stop doing business with those people. This has 
happened recently in relation to companies who are under sanctions.

The second may be that while these companies may be legitimate 
businesses the NCC is aware of the local law and says, "Ah, no, we know, 
for a fact, that you are mandated to use these resources for network 
abuse, therefore your application is invalid."

The third option may be that the law is passed, the resources are handed 
out and the RIPE community, so incensed by this, writes a policy that 
allows for far more invasive deregistration and closure steps and the 
membership of the NCC signs off on this. It would be... fun (fcvo fun) 
to watch and I suspect Nigel may cry.

Of course in amongst all of this I would suspect if the resources were 
handed out, there would be a lot of depeering and null routing going on 
in relation to the poor, forced-to-spam, citizens of the Grand Duchy. :)

Brian