[anti-abuse-wg] Clarification Regarding Needs Assessment and Audits

Hi Suresh,

Firstly, any member (LIR) can receive by default a /32 (up to a /29) 
ALLOCATION and NOT assignment. It's a /48 PI assignment that you can get 
if you are not an LIR.

Secondly, @Suresh - have a look at who is leading the world in IPv6 
deployment and then you may want to be careful with trowing stones at 
Romania.
Romania IS and has been for at least one year the leader in IPv6 
deployment in the whole world, if you are badmouthing Romania for it's 
spam, try to praise it for it's IPv6 deployment, that would be fair.

My 2 cents,
Elvis Daniel Velea (proud Romanian)


On 8/31/13 7:11 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> I was starting to wonder whether anybody else with an operational
> antispam and security role for a large provider was around here. :)
>
> Thanks for chiming in, vijay. At a guess those v6 /32s are all
> registered in Romania?
>
> --srs
>
> On Saturday, August 31, 2013, Vijay Eranti (✌ విజయ్ ఈరంటి) wrote:
>
>     i agree with suresh's assessment.
>
>     Lately lot of spammers are getting /32 ipv6 assignments with their
>     own ASNs and having a nice run.
>     The ipv4 allotment is seriously broken in ripe - just having
>     paperwork with valid forms filled is good enough to allot what ever
>     range the spammers can ask.
>
>     regards
>     vijay
>
>
>     On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
>     <ops.lists at gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>     'ops.lists at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>         The lack of progress is simply because you have very few people
>         who are in a security rather than IP admin or network ops role.
>           Security as in for a seriously large provider.
>
>         The other lack of progress - well, changing entrenched policies,
>         or enforcing them beyond a point where the enforcer is reluctant
>         to investigate (or is it "play police" according to the local
>         meme) is as tough as it sounds.
>
>
>         On Friday, July 5, 2013, Frank Gadegast wrote:
>
>             Sascha Luck wrote:
>
>                 TTBOMK, as long as policy requirements are fulfilled
>                 there is no mandate to revoke resources.
>
>
>             Any spammer on this list (think so, simply because
>             of the lack of progress) ?
>
>             * Im starting now a second carrier in renting all
>             the IPv4 addresses left in our allocation exclusively
>             to abusers and make a lot of money with it.
>             Just make offers now. *
>
>             Will surely put a working abuse contact email address
>             in RIPEs db, that gets directed to /dev/null
>             and have a correct postal address somewhere on
>             a funny island ...
>
>             And it looks like if nobody could ever do anything
>             against it.
>
>             The current regulations are simply slippery as
>             an eel (like we say in Germany), no way
>             to catch anybody responsible. Again, ridicolous ...
>
>
>             Kind regards, Frank
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>
>
>
> --
> --srs (iPad)

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Kind regards, Elvis Velea