[anti-abuse-wg] Update on the EU Clean-IT project

Could we add the following corporate terrorism (using threats to
achieve what you do not wish to achieve through democratic means):

- using libel as a way to shut down consumer's voice (mc
libel/Danone/Monstanto);
- EDF spying on greenpeace;
- the corporate companies (MS, amnesys) helping lybia/tunisia
dictatorship spy on their people;
 - the more than probable help of companies in cyber warfare (dassault
desactivating iraqui's IFF on mirage, flame malware?);
- the clearly wtf TOS for social services specifying legal content as
not being sharable (nude is wrong (but legal), nazis stuff are right
(but sometimes illegal));


Terror is all about short circuiting democratic means to achieve your
goals by the means of fear.
Libelling and copyright laws are being used as a clear threat to
freedom of speech, thus as democracy by the mean of terrorizing people
willing to launch debates.

How can I trust someone using terror on the internet to fight the terror?

I am not willing to fight any terrorists by supporting other
terrorists. No Terrorism is acceptable. Even terrorism made by people
in nice suits and driving fast sport cars.

2012/9/22 U.Mutlu <security at mutluit.com>:
> Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote, On 09/22/2012 02:02 AM:
>
>> How or why do you say they are anti Islamic?
>
>
> Just look at this list on their web page
> http://www.cleanitproject.eu/documents/ :
>
> "
> Please find below a list of public papers, reports and articles about the
> terrorist use of the Internet:
> 2004 E-Terror
> 2006 Hezbollah use of the Internet
> 2006 Terrorism and Internet
> 2006 Jihadis and Internet
> 2007 Jihadism online
> 2008 Terrorist use of the Internet
> 2008 Virtual Caliphate
> 2009 Internet radicalisation South East Asia
> 2009 Online Radicalisation
> 2009 Recruitment and Radicalisation
> 2009 Terrorism and the Internet
> 2009 Jihadis and the Internet update
> 2009 How Jihadis adapt to the web
> 2009 Terrorist financing on the Internet
> 2009 Online propaganda by Jihadis (in Spanish)
> 2010 Global Extremist Organisations
> 2010 Radical websites in Indonesia
> 2010 Virtual Jihad (in German)
> 2011 Use of the Internet for Counter Terrorist purposes
> 2011 Role of Internet for terrorists (in Spanish)
> 2012 Jihadism on the Web
> 2012 Terrorists Using Social Online Networking
> "
>
> Do you see in the list any document against nazi websites,
> or of jewish fanatics, or of christian fundamentalists?...
> Very suspicious...
>
>
>> --srs (htc one x)
>> On Sep 21, 2012 10:52 PM, "U.Mutlu" <security at mutluit.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Brian Nisbet wrote, On 09/21/2012 05:02 PM:
>>>
>>>> Erik,
>>>> Erik Bais wrote the following on 21/09/2012 13:55:
>>>>
>>>>> Thnx for that Brian.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll save my questions on this topics for next Thursday.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. Also, the Clean IT project has just posted this reaction:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cleanitproject.eu/**edri-publishes-clean-it-**
>>>>
>>>> discussion-document/<http://www.cleanitproject.eu/edri-publishes-clean-it-discussion-document/>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The "press release" begins with this sentence:
>>>   "However EDRI suggests otherwise, a posted document on their website
>>>   does not provide concrete proposal to tackle terrorism on the
>>> internet."
>>>
>>> Do I need to brush up my english, or what is it saying exactly? :-)
>>>
>>> I don't think, and hope that such an anti-Islam-only paper (and
>>> anti-Islam
>>> organisation and web site they have set up under the RIPE umbrella with
>>> EU
>>> tax money),
>>> can or should ever get any ratification from the netizens.
>>> It even looks like a paper coming directly from Israel's foreign secret
>>> service Mossad...
>
>
>