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[anti-abuse-wg] Manual vs automated reports
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peter h
peter at hk.ipsec.se
Thu Jul 26 16:26:07 CEST 2012
On Wednesday 25 July 2012 17.39, "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" wrote: > Arnold > Do a Whois lookup on any IP in As39122 > You should see an abuse contact.... > > Yet we still get reports sent to accounts@ sales@ etc., Not that strange : > whois blacknight.tel Domain Name: BLACKNIGHT.TEL Domain ID: D591748-TEL Sponsoring Registrar: BLACKNIGHT INTERNET SOLUTIONS LTD Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1448 Registrar URL (registration services): www.blacknight.com Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID: TUDHRH3SZ9DINEQF Registrant Name: Michele Neylon Registrant Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Registrant Address1: Barrowside Business Park Registrant Address2: Unit 12a Registrant Address3: Sleaty Road Registrant City: Carlow Registrant State/Province: Co Carlow Registrant Postal Code: 000000 Registrant Country: Ireland Registrant Country Code: IE Registrant Phone Number: +353.599183072 Registrant Email: management at blacknight.ie Administrative Contact ID: TURPH7M0XB4O2DZO Administrative Contact Name: Michele Neylon Administrative Contact Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Administrative Contact Address1: Barrowside Business Park Administrative Contact Address2: Unit 12a Administrative Contact Address3: Sleaty Road Administrative Contact City: Carlow Administrative Contact State/Province: Co Carlow Administrative Contact Postal Code: 000000 Administrative Contact Country: Ireland Administrative Contact Country Code: IE Administrative Contact Phone Number: +353.599183072 Administrative Contact Email: management at blacknight.ie Billing Contact ID: TURO0PYDHUERE11M Billing Contact Name: Michele Neylon Billing Contact Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Billing Contact Address1: Barrowside Business Park Billing Contact Address2: Unit 12a Billing Contact Address3: Sleaty Road Billing Contact City: Carlow Billing Contact State/Province: Co Carlow Billing Contact Postal Code: 000000 Billing Contact Country: Ireland Billing Contact Country Code: IE Billing Contact Phone Number: +353.599183072 Billing Contact Email: management at blacknight.ie Technical Contact ID: TUJJC18TGSETV3QQ Technical Contact Name: Michele Neylon Technical Contact Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Technical Contact Address1: Barrowside Business Park Technical Contact Address2: Unit 12a Technical Contact Address3: Sleaty Road Technical Contact City: Carlow Technical Contact State/Province: Co Carlow Technical Contact Postal Code: 000000 Technical Contact Country: Ireland Technical Contact Country Code: IE Technical Contact Phone Number: +353.599183072 Technical Contact Email: management at blacknight.ie Name Server: A0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL Name Server: D0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL Name Server: N0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL Name Server: S0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL Name Server: T0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL Created by Registrar: INJECTCSR Last Updated by Registrar: BLACKNIGHT INTERNET SOLUTIONS LTD Last Transferred Date: Wed Mar 02 23:46:19 GMT 2011 Domain Registration Date: Mon Mar 23 23:59:59 GMT 2009 Domain Expiration Date: Sat Mar 22 23:59:59 GMT 2014 Domain Last Updated Date: Wed Feb 15 15:43:42 GMT 2012 Registrar Fields ---------------- TrademarkRegistrationDate: 2006/10/26 >>>> Whois database was last updated on: Thu Jul 26 14:18:37 GMT 2012 <<<< There is no "abuse" address for someone searching for "blacknight.tel" > > Regards > > Michele > > Mr. Michele Neylon > Blacknight > http://Blacknight.tel > > Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity > > On 25 Jul 2012, at 16:25, "Arnold" <wiegert at telus.net> wrote: > > > On 25/07/2012 6:52 AM, Frank Gadegast wrote: > >> "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >>> If they send reports to $random addresses they don't really deserve a response > >> > >> Thats a true word for prefessionals, but not for not-so-skilled > >> reporter, that are happy to find out, that there is something like RIPE > >> and a whois showing them who is responsible for a resource, if they > >> get abused. > > I have to agree with this. > > As a purely 'amateur' reporter, The WhoIs record is all I can rely on > > as an _officially_ published record to report my complaint. > > There are other ways, but none are as easy to use and as official. > > > > If the people responsible for reducing SPAM won't do anything to make > > it easier by at least enforcing a proper abuse address in the expected > > and designated place, then it makes the job of reporting and reducing > > SPAM that much harder. > > > > No matter what you will do, publishing any address opens the door to > > receiving SPAM, but ... why complain about it; use the information > > provided by this SPAM in the same way you expect any other user > > to use it - except you won't need me to report it to you :-) > > > > Arnold > > > > -- > > Fight Spam - report it with wxSR > > http://www.columbinehoney.net/wxSR.shtml > > > > > > > -- Peter Håkanson There's never money to do it right, but always money to do it again ... and again ... and again ... and again. ( Det är billigare att göra rätt. Det är dyrt att laga fel. )
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