[anti-abuse-wg] Hold time for abused address space - DNSChanger IP's reallocated

On 8/15/2012 11:55 AM, Luis Muñoz wrote:
> In my experience, lists managed through those principles tend to fall out of use relatively quickly and are therefore rather inconsequential for mail delivery.

That is not my experience.  For instance, you can readily find 
complaints about Microsoft and Cisco as well as some of the contributors 
to this list.  This is the norm and any place that does a good job is 
the exception.  it is interesting how people heavily involved in "abuse" 
respond the way you have responded yet when you ask small businesses or 
non-technical experts who have been subject to false alarms respond in a 
completely different manner.  This is because the people heavily 
involved in abuse are often out of touch with the rest of the world and 
only circulate amoong a small group of systems administrators.  One guy 
told me I could not have known what I was talking about because he had 
never met me at one one of the conferences he goes to.  Another very 
well known ant-spammer who acts as an expert witness never heard of the 
CISSP certification and claimed it was some kind of worthless 
certification.  This is the same guy who says ISP's should be scanning 
everyone's email but when it is pointed out this violates the privacy 
policies he never answers.  Then these types often go around calling 
everyone else "clueless."