[anti-abuse-wg] abuse-contact is not going to fly unless we get all the legitimate players adopting it first

Chris wrote:
> hi!

Oh Chris ...

> On 04/25/2012 10:33 AM, Frank Gadegast wrote:
>> Surely you cannot force any member to work against abuse, but
>> we can improve the accuracy of the contacts of those, that
>> do like it.
> [...]
>>       was really complicated and intense, it would be helpful,
>>       if RIPE NCC would have a technical validation, simply
>>       because they have better ways to contact their members,
>>       and their members probably listen to RIPE NCC quicker
>>       than to any complainant.
>
> i sense some dissonance here.

Sure, because their mistake made it nearly impossible
to reach them (remember: they finally DID update it,
so they WANTED a working contact) anmd RIPE NCC and the
new form were simply NO help at all.
We accived the final contact of a peering contact we
had (so: from a different source !)


The current quality of the DB seems to depend on
the abused ones instead of the publisher or the maintainer
of the DB.
I call this bananaware (getting ripe at the customer) ...

The majority of the members DO like correct abuse contacts
(at least to our expirience)
and DO something against abuse from their networks, but
surely make mistakes. Do you not think, that they would
appriciate a system to raise the quality of their objects ?
Well, I do.

> anyway.
>
> if you wish to check objects for a form you don't like (like 'no optional email attribute') and subsequently inform the responsible person of what you think about your findings - i don't see what stops you.
> if you just walk up to me and tell me i have to do it for you - well: no, you can do that yourself.

Just in your case:
I will fix your records to our needs, simply send me your maintainer
password ;o)


Kind regards, Frank
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> regards,
>
> 	Chris
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