[anti-abuse-wg] 2011-06 New Policy Proposal (Abuse Contact Management in the RIPE NCC Database)

Hi Kostas,

You wrote:

> This is true, but imagine the reporting function be handled
> automatically by machines and the counter-measures enforced near
> real-time by interested and cooperatings ISPs (again using
> automation). This might make the situation a bit better than today.
> Also parties that don't care or cooperate can be more easily
> identified. 

It would only be able to identify someone who did not care after sending them a report. Why not allow the publication of abuse contact details to remain optional and know that someone does not care about abuse reports before wasting cycles in contacting them?

There is nothing wrong with standardising the publication mechanism to aid automation but enforcing it on people who would prefer to be uncooperative just means a lot of wasted effort.

> I think we should not leave the situation as-is.

I don't believe anyone has suggested that things should not change and improve. I am suggesting that directionless, piecemeal changes are a bad idea and that any changes should be part of an overall plan that has received the consensus of the community before any single change is implemented. At a minimum, a plan needs to address the migration plan for automatically converting old abuse contact data to the new format and a systematic programme for maintaining data quality. If there are any implications for address allocation policy, such as reclaiming address space in certain circumstances, those should be spelled out explicitly and receive the consensus of the Address Policy WG.

Regards,

Leo