[anti-abuse-wg] Proposal for technical details for abuse contact information in the RIPE Database

Adrian wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 03:24:05PM +0100, Frank Gadegast wrote:
>
> hi,

Hi,

>> You forgot about bigger ISPs that likes to report abuse
>> automatically in standarized formats (and what most abuse departments
>> really LIKE to receive).
>
> True, but this is an orthogonal problem.
>
>> An unrestricted abuse contact really helps here a lot.
>
> Like, the abuse mailbox defined in RFC 2142?

Dont forget that the abuse-mailbox is mandatory, the new
abuce-c isnt (and its also hierachically).
When automatic parsing is needed, your need to query
several objects including IRT, remarks, abuse-mailbox (what
is usally not present for networks that ARE spamming
a lot) and finally personal objects to find at least
one email address you could send an abuse report too.
And personal objects ARE restricted, what compicates
things a lot.

>> But to be honest: no restriction helps that your email
>> address ends up in a spammers list, they have more
>
> Adding arbitrary restrictions doesn't prevent that either.
>
>> power you can dream of (I even heared that they pay
>> people to enter captcha codes).
>
> Yes.

Ok, so lets restrict access to personal objects even more
and lets have a non mandatory and public abuse-c without any
restriction.

And I still like the idea of an "preferred contact method"
field, so we can decide what format to use automatically.

> Cheers, Adrian

Kind regards, Frank
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