Fwd: [anti-abuse-wg] Antispam measures

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> From: peter håkanson <peter at hk.ipsec.se>
> Date: October 21, 2009 10:22:13 AM GMT+02:00
> To: Chimel Chimel <chimel31 at live.fr>
> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Antispam measures
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Chimel Chimel wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am not sure this mailing list is still active, the latest  
>> archived mail dates back from over a year ago.
>
> yes, the list is sprodically active, however the working group has  
> given up
> with spam and calls itself 'anti-abuse' these days.
>
>> I have 3 questions for this mailing list:
>>
>> 1) Does RIPE or other registrars impose antispam fighting measures  
>> or a code of conduct to the ISPs or telcos it allocates IP ranges to?
>> For instance, do these registrar customers specifically sign an  
>> agreement never to post spam themselves. Do they also sign an  
>> agreement to terminate IP sub-allocation or contract with their own  
>> customers who are using their IP addresses to post spam?
>>
>> 2) If there is such measures, how does RIPE enforce them?
>>
>> 3) What does RIPE intends to do about Ukrtelecom, who is alone  
>> responsible for hundreds of thousands of daily spam posts in  
>> discussion forums and BBSs?
>> According to the people in stopforumspam.com, every single post  
>> emanating from ukrtelecom is spam, there is not a single genuine  
>> user from that telco.
>> How can RIPE allocate hundreds of separate IP ranges to this single  
>> telco, especially if it is only a support for spam, not a telco at  
>> all.
>> When querying the RIPE database for ukrtelecom, it returns 300 IP  
>> ranges, but that's only because the web site is limited to 300  
>> answers.
>> I'd like to see the whole list in order to ban it all from my  
>> forum, even if it means banning genuine users from Ukraine.
>> And of course, when I say ukrtelecom is a spammer site, I really  
>> means it is a mafia site that makes millions of dollars every month  
>> in illegal activities, selling dangerous fake medicines such as  
>> viagra or tamiflu.
>> In these times of IP addresses shortening, it would make a lot more  
>> IPs available if the registrars would cancel IP allocation from the  
>> customers who break the antispam rules.
>
> Amen !
>
> In the meantime, block the offending ranges. This will make the ip's  
> isolated. A number
> of blocklists is available that keeps current records of offending  
> ranges.
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chimel.
>>
>> By the way, a BBS seems to be a more adequate way than a mailing  
>> list to handle this kind of discussion. Just my 2 cents.
>>
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Peter Håkanson           Phone     +46707328101       Fax +4631223190
IPSec sverige                Email      peter at ipsec.se
"Safe by design"           Address    Bror Nilssons gata 16   
Lundbystrand
                                         S-417 55  Gothenburg   Sweden