[anti-abuse-wg] What to do when both RIR and ISP don't care?

Hello,

But is there somewhere a list with all similar sites/forums about where to
report things for more countries?

With kind regards,

Mark Scholten

-----Original Message-----
From: anti-abuse-wg-admin at ripe.net [mailto:anti-abuse-wg-admin at ripe.net] On
Behalf Of Jesus Sanz de las Heras
Sent: vrijdag 24 april 2009 18:20
To: Badguys Killer
Cc: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] What to do when both RIR and ISP don't care?

Badguys Killer escribió:
>      About this error, my mail was actually sent from my company.  I
> thought my company's mail server IP address might be blacklisted by
> auna.es SMTP server.  So I had sent another mail from GMail asking if
> they are using some special blacklist.  Two days have passed, I don't
> have this error, but I don't have any answer either!
> 
>      So you see, not only those countries like Russia or Turkey are
> the problem, those within EU are not that cooperating either...

Thats is no true. When a I read your message immediately I sent email to
ONO abuse team and  could be possible they updated contact. Its true that
ONO had to keep updated them

In Spain we have a good technical coordination forum of  ISPs abuse spanish
teams , his name its Foro ABUSES (http://www.abuses.es). I don't know if
other europeans countries have a similar iniciatives. The main objetive of
this Forum i have good contacts points and define best current practices
and other iniciatives as Spanish WhiteList, spamtraps networks, SPF,
special contact (police, hotmail,yahoo etc and other cert teams)   and
other activities (two anual meetings) included to have updated data RIPE

Foro ABUSES is coordinated for people of spanish academic network as  the
best neutral spanish ISP. It's is free.
I hope to improve your image of Spain ;-) and you are invite the next
meeting in May, Madrid to know ONO/AUNA  people ;-)


Thanks in advance

Regards
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Badguys Killer
> <badguyskiller at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     Thanks to all for your replies.
>>
>>     I see that the contact info has been updated.  Very fast.  It
>> would be nice if RIPE could provide a method for us to report invalid
>> contact in Whois database.
>>
>>     OTOH, abuse at auna.es or abuse at ono.es both have the same problem.
>> I think it's something within that company.
>> -----
>> The following recipient(s) cannot be reached:
>>
>>      abuse at ono.es on 2009.04.22 11:00
>>            There was a SMTP communication problem with the
>> recipient's email server.  Please contact your system administrator.
>>            <mailhost.futurmaster.com #5.5.0 smtp;550 Denied by policy.>
>> -----
> 
> 
> 


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