[address-policy-wg] FW: Policy Reciprocity

I agree with Shane here.

We shall correct mistakes ASAP. Legacy was a mistake, just because we didn't have the RIR system before, nothing else. It was not a conscious decision, nobody understood at that time that Internet as a "global" thing will need those resources and will become scarce.

It is not fair that legacy holders are not bind to policies and services (and their cost) from the RIRs the same way as non-legacy.

We "rewind history" in real life all the time. There are laws (and customs) that as time passes, we discover that were wrong or broken or need to be adapted to new times, and we change them, sometimes we need to compensate for the law change, or give some "timeout" before making the new law in-force, but we do it. Yes, somebody can say it is not fair, but it is also not fair the other way around (it is even more unfair).

Transfers are a way to correct that, as it has been said (and done in other regions). And every day it has less sense to keep the resources legacy: you need other resources from the RIR (like IPv6, other ASN, etc.), so then you sign the service agreement.

RIPE region is a bit special on that, in the sense that we have a single fee for everything, but in other regions is not the same way, and it is somehow proportional to the "amount" of resources you hold. I also think that's unfair. Of course, that's a different discussion ... Could you imagine a country that charges the same "single flat-rate tax" to every "family" or "citizen" regardless of having different income?

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 21/10/20 10:33, "address-policy-wg en nombre de Jim Reid" <address-policy-wg-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de jim at rfc1035.com> escribió:



    > On 21 Oct 2020, at 08:17, Shane Kerr <shane at time-travellers.org> wrote:
    > 
    > If there is a rationale for any of the RIPE policies, then that rationale should apply uniformly.

    ONLY to the resources that were issued under those policies.

    Frankly, it’s about time to stop obsessing about policies (for IPv4?? sheesh!!) and pay attention to outcomes.

    > I thought it was a mistake to treat legacy space differently when I first I learned about it 22 years ago, and I still think that it is a mistake.

    Fair enough Shane. [Though I don’t agree legacy space is/was a mistake.] However nobody can rewind history. So until someone invents time travel, we just have to live with what you think was a mistake.





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