[address-policy-wg] 2015-05 Discussion Period extended until 13 May 2016 (Last /8 Allocation Criteria Revision)

Hi everyone,
I agree with Wilhelms arguments and I want to add my personal thoughts about 2015-05. I dont think that it is a good thing, if depletation of the RIPE NCCs IPv4 address pool will speed up and in my opinion it is the wrong signal to support the NCCs members with the historical internet addressing standard. There is a new successor standard, that will bring complete new possibilities for an internet infrastructure with an open standard for equal footing chances to step into the business. There is no need for more IPv4 addresses unless for migration use.
In addition I think, that the comparision with the runout policies from other RIRs is not a valid argument. RIPEs current last /8 policy runs great and gives equal chances for new members in a mid term run. Therefore, I oppose the policy proposal 2015-05.
Regards,
Carsten


> Am 12.05.2016 um 18:46 schrieb Wilhelm Boeddinghaus <wilhelm at boeddinghaus.de>:
> 
> Am 12.05.2016 um 15:48 schrieb Randy Bush:
>> it's not just our grandchildren.  if the last /8 policy had not been put
>> in place and taken seriously, *today's* new LIRs might not be able to get
>> IPv4 space.
>> 
>> randy
>> 
> Well said.
> 
> Look at the other RIRs who cannot offer any IPv4 space to new members. The market is more or less fixed. New ISPs cannot easily develop new business models and innovate. But we in RIPE region can, because of the strict policy. Let`s keep it.
> 
> We have talked about IPv6 so many times, there is no way to speed up IPv6 deployment by writing a policy. IPv6 will come, see the growth rates in several coutries. Apple is demanding it for the software, this will help. There are many companies moving to IPv6. And many enterprises become LIR to get IPv6 space. They want to become independant from their providers, never want to renumber again and see, that the Internet is  important for their business and they take back control. Getting IPv4 space is sometimes just an addon (a very nice one, I admit).
> 
> I oppose 2015-05 and want to stick with the current policy of not burning down the RIPE NCC IPv4 pool for short term profit. Welcome new players on the market with an IPv4 address block as long as possible.
> 
> Wilhelm
>