[address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: IPv4 reserved space

How we could help the government and their organizations to:
1) Understand the need
2) Deploy it at their organizations

If you have the right contacts, I will be happy to help.

Regards,
Jordi


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De: address-policy-wg <address-policy-wg-bounces at ripe.net> en nombre de Arash Naderpour <arash_mpc at parsun.com>
Responder a: <arash_mpc at parsun.com>
Fecha: domingo, 12 de junio de 2016, 17:30
Para: 'Sergey' <gforgx at fotontel.ru>, <address-policy-wg at ripe.net>
Asunto: Re: [address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: IPv4 reserved space

>As an example in Iran there is only one exit point (AS12880 and AS48159 belongs to one organization) from country to global carriers controlled by government and as they have no LI platform yet on IPv6 there is simply no IPv6 service availability or possibility for Iranian service providers. 
> 
>There is no possibility to have a direct peering with a global carrier and as a result no native IPv6 connectivity yet.  there is also no IXP in the country. 
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>As I said it is not about the difficulty of deploying IPv6, when it is not lawful and is not available to ISPs they have to stick with IPv4. Please refer to ripe ncc lab report and see some IPv4 import figures https://labs.ripe.net/Members/wilhelm/developments-in-ipv4-transfers
> 
>Arash
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>P.S last month they started advertising of the IPv6 blocks but no plan to provide a service to ISPs as yet.
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>From: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Sergey
>Sent: Monday, 13 June 2016 1:10 AM
>To: address-policy-wg at ripe.net
>Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: IPv4 reserved space
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>Global carriers provide that connectivity. What's the problem?
>On 06/12/16 18:08, Arash Naderpour wrote:
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>I was not talking about a global carrier and if they can provide IPv6 or not, It was about availability and possibilities to have IPv6 connectivity everywhere. There are two different subject.
> 
>Arash
> 
>From: Dominik Nowacki [mailto:dominik at clouvider.co.uk] 
>Sent: Monday, 13 June 2016 12:42 AM
>To: Arash Naderpour <arash_mpc at parsun.com> <mailto:arash_mpc at parsun.com>
>Cc: Alexander Koeppe <Alexander.Koeppe at merckgroup.com> <mailto:Alexander.Koeppe at merckgroup.com>; address-policy-wg at ripe.net
>Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: IPv4 reserved space
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>Not available ?
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>Please name a global carrier that does not support IPv6.
>With Kind Regards, 
>
>Dominik Nowacki 
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>On 12 Jun 2016, at 16:40, Arash Naderpour <arash_mpc at parsun.com> wrote:
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>And I don't understand why some people think that everyone can deploy IPv6,
>it is simply not available everywhere.  
>It is not about difficulty, it is about possibility. 
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>Regards,
>
>Arash
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces at ripe.net] On
>Behalf Of Alexander Koeppe
>Sent: Monday, 13 June 2016 12:09 AM
>To: address-policy-wg at ripe.net
>Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: IPv4
>reserved space
>
>I don't understand how much time and energy is being put into the discussion
>about keeping vintage IP alive.
>This time and energy would be better off spent in just deploying v6.
>It's just not that difficult. You just need to develop a stepwise approach.
>A one-shot would probably fail.
>
>-- Alex
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>Am 11.06.2016 um 22:35 schrieb Gert Doering <gert at space.net>:
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>Hi,
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>On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:14:11PM +0300, NTX NOC wrote:
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>About IPv6 - still now in Russia there are no Home ISPs who gives 
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>IPv6 by default to customers. Nobody wants it, nobody needs it.
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>The "nobody needs it" is a misconception.  Direct your energy there to 
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>make people understand that IPv4 is game over.
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>Gert Doering
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