[address-policy-wg] 2016-03 New Policy Proposal (Locking Down the Final /8 Policy)

*5.1 Allocations made by the RIPE NCC to LIRs*

4. All allocations will be marked in the RIPE database as ‘ALLOCATED FINAL’

5. An allocation marked "ALLOCATED FINAL" is valid as long as it remains
with the LIR it was allocated to. If an LIR, due to mergers, acquisitions
or other means gains additional allocations marked "ALLOCATED FINAL", all
but the equivalent of a single /22 will be de-registered by the RIPE NCC
within 180 days.

More than one /22 from the 185./8  are additional and others are not. What
will happen with already received additional  /22 from the 185./8?
7 июня 2016 г. 15:14 пользователь "Riccardo Gori" <rgori at wirem.net> написал:

> Hi Aleksey,
> Il 06/06/2016 23:54, Aleksey Bulgakov ha scritto:
>
> Hi.
>
> Why are we talking about 185./8 only? There are many unused allocations
> bigger than /8 but the NCC doesn't want to pay attention to them.
>
>
> As you can read on the top of 2016-03 proposal states:
>
>
>    - Explicitly state that the current IPv4 allocation policy applies to
>    all available IPv4 address space held by the RIPE NCC that has not been
>    reserved or marked to be returned to IANA
>
> This would apply to the whole reamining pool.
>
> E.g. If the LIR has the allocation 31./12 (this is for example only, I
> didn't check what RIR has 31./8 network) and didn't use it during 5 years
> (or other period) he should return it to the NCC pool or a part of it.
>
> There is 2015-01, that prevents speculations. And I don't see any reasons
> to implement 2016-03.
>
> "Sergey" <gforgx at fotontel.ru> wrote:
> >
> > Completely agree with Riccardo on this.
> >
> > I've addressed this question via IRC during GM, why the strict audit is
> not possible - and got a response that it's against policy. Google has
> supported this concern.
> >
> > If there is problem with policy, the policy should be changed, not
> workarounds against the policy added.
> >
> >
> > On 06/07/16 00:09, Riccardo Gori wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> although I understand the spirit of this policy in my opinion there's a
> big problem behind it: seems that has been thought for reasoucers not in
> use.
> >> I really don't get how a space can be de-registered once announced and
> in use and after have been allocated under regular procedures and business
> processes.
> >>
> >> A new entrant would see his investments vanified by a rule that make
> possibile transferts possbile only for old LIRs that acquired space before
> 09/2012.
> >> I think this really creates barrier to ingress in the market.
> >>
> >> If a return policy has to be proposed this should address the whole
> IPv4 RIPE Region space to be fair and catch where IPs are stockpiled and
> not in use.
> >> Anyway we all know that's quite impossible.
> >>
> >> To address the problem of abuse RIPE NCC should enforce audit and check
> if the LIR "make assignement(s)" as stated in the policy.
> >> This could be a way to get rid of buy/sell just for speculation.
> >>
> >> I cannot support this policy
> >>
> >> regards
> >> Riccardo
> >>
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