[address-policy-wg] Update on ALLOCATED PI/UNSPECIFIED

Hi,

On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 04:29:59PM +0200, Sergey Myasoedov wrote:
> > We (the RIPE community and the NCC) rolled out 2007-01 to all the 
> > other PI holders, and the amount of unhappiness was not very big.  
> 
> No. It was big. But you prefer not to mention that. That???s your 
> perception, please don???t say ???we???.

"We" was related to "we rolled out 2007-01", and yes, that was "all of us".

It might be that *you* were unhappy about it, but that's not the general
sentiment I heard from other markets.

> > Those cases that I was involved with my "LIR admin-c" hat on, PI holders 
> > seemed to be happy to have a clear contract with a known entity (us), and 
> > the assurance that this would ensure that nobody else could make claims 
> > to their address space.
> 
> By the way, 2007-01 has produced a new market with ~2 MEUR/yr volume.
> Do you really think that PI holders were happy to pay such amount?

In this thread, you've seen statements from PI holders, clearly stating
that they do not care at all for 50 EUR/year if they get clear contractual
rights in return.

As a network administrator, I do have my "own" /24 PI (... dating back to
1993 or so), and I also pay 50 EUR/year for it.  I have considered whether
that is enough of an annoyance to return it to the IPv4 pool, and decided
that it has enough sentimental value for me to keep it.  So yes, PI holders
are OK with that.

Note that I did not say "everybody was happy and celebrated".  I said
"the amount of unhappiness was not very big" - which translates to "a bit
of grumbling and cursing here and there, but nobody decided to raise 
a big stink in the AGM or ask their regulator to take over from the
RIPE NCC".  Right?

Gert Doering
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