[address-policy-wg] 2015-05 New Policy Proposal (Revision of Last /8 Allocation Criteria)

On 20 Oct 2015, at 22:18, Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN <ripe-wgs at radu-adrian.feurdean.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015, at 23:02, Randy Bush wrote:
>> please put your money where your mouth is and run ipv6 only, including
>> smtp, ..., all external and internal connectivity.
> 
> And If I do it, do I get some extra space ? No.

Yes you do. You get oodles of v6 space: way more than enough to run a network on the model of one IP address (or allocation) per customer. [So what's stopping you? Just go for it!] Applying that model to v4 addresses is no longer tenable or viable and hasn't been for a few years now. Get over it.

Besides, there's no RIR policy -- or reason to have one -- which doles out extra v4 allocations to LIRs who deploy v6. For some definition of deploy. Feel free to suggest such a policy but please be prepared to back it up with hard data. BTW the "An LIR must have v6 to get their final /22 of v4" policy does not count in this context.

> In the meanwhile remaining v4 space goes where most people can't even imagine....

Well there would still be a supply of v4 at the NCC which future generations might be able to exploit when they need to connect their IPv6 nets to any v4-only curiosities which might still be around 30+ years from now. That's the main justification behind the current /8 policy. That policy has consensus support in the RIPE region. And with good reason.

If there's a compelling case to justify overturning current policy, it's not being made in 2015-05. I'm sure everyone here will be delighted to consider that case when someone presents a convincing argument which shows why the current policy is defective for the RIPE community as a whole. Over to you...