[address-policy-wg] Hoarding /22 out of 185/8

Am 2015-05-06 11:05, schrieb Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN:

> 
> Point is, even for people that DO deploy IPv6, there is still a need of
> v4 adresses for quite some time. The "hit the wall hard, ASAP" strategy
> (like in ARIN or LACNIC land) doesn't seem to be the solution favoured
> by the community in RIPE-land.
> 

And exactly this is the reason why the /22-policy is as it is and is not 
meant to be bypassed by setting up LIRs and transfering.
Even if your "default" is IPv6, you'll need at least this few IPv4 to be 
able to run CGN etc.


I just had this mail (below) in my ticketsystem

> Hello.
> 
> As you know, the RIPE NCC can only provide one final /22 to your LIR 
> because it is currently allocating address space from the last /8 of 
> IPv4 addresses.
> 
> However the RIPE NCC allows to get IPv4 addresses from other LIR. Our 
> company has LIR status and ready to transfer such addresses to your 
> LIR. This operation is approved by the RIPE NCC and absolutely legal.
> 
> The blocks are absolutely clean, haven't been in usage, are absent in 
> any blacklist.
> 
> If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me. Simply answer to 
> this letter and you will get the answer shortly.


... and reading this I think the policy must be strictly changed. I do 
not exactly know the wording of RIPE membership rules, but if you set up 
a "Verein" in Germany (and this is more or less the type which matches 
best the legal form RIPE NCC has) you are recommended to put something 
like "each and every person who is willingly doing any harm to the club, 
it's reputation or other members is to be kicked out without any right 
for compensations. All rights this person has be being member are 
immediately withdrawn. The exclusion from the club does not reduce the 
any regress against the excluded member".

I see, that it is not possible to prevent every bypassing, but I think 
someone who is even spaming and advertising sale of resources shall be 
kicked out RIPE NCC immediately and all resources this person or 
enterprise ever requested should be withdrawn!

I am not saying that people opening a second LIR and later merges this 
second LIR back after a while for which ever reason (e.g. second LIRs 
purpose did not launch successfully) should not be hit by this rule; 
sometimes plans don't work out. But if it is obviously that someone is 
doing it "regualary" this IS obviously and can be seen easily by 
membership application and here we absolutely should stop the abuse.

BR
Jens