[address-policy-wg] Hoarding /22 out of 185/8

On Wed, May 6, 2015, at 09:11, Tomasz SLASKI wrote:
> IMO, the situation will continue as long as the IPv4 prices will be 
> accepted by the market. After crossing the threshold of pain, people 
> will notice that it is better to migrate to IPv6 instead of paying sick 
> money for antiquitie numbers. Unfortunately, the pain threshold is very 
> high, because there is still lot of equipment bought for millions $ that 
> you have to throw to scrap dump, to say IPv4 goodbye permanently.

Well, today the problem does NOT end with "deploy IPv6". An an ISP you
still have to do CGN and in a number of countries conserve TCP/UDP
connection logs for some time (12/24/36 months). No IPv4 at all = out of
business. If you also do "enterprise access", you can't even start your
business without IPv4 space. For server hosting providers, it's even
worse, IPv6 being close to no help at all (you still need 1 public IPv4
per server sold, for the moment IPv6 doesn't help in any way - it is a
longer-term solution, that for the monent only helps "the others").
Then yes, all that hardware that doesn't work without IPv4, but you
still have "non-public" space for that as a last resort solution.
An then there's all the small but numerous companies that will "never
ever in hell" deploy anything if there is not explicit customer demand -
and customers rarely make an explicit demand for IPv6, and when they do
it's generally "1 in 1000".

Point is, even for people that DO deploy IPv6, there is still a need of
v4 adresses for quite some time. The "hit the wall hard, ASAP" strategy
(like in ARIN or LACNIC land) doesn't seem to be the solution favoured
by the community in RIPE-land.