[address-policy-wg] Next steps for new LIRs

Hi Yuri,

In some countries (Like Iran) IPv6 deployments is not an option at the
moment (or new future) as the regulatory and authorities do not allow to use
it. (and the only backbone provider has no IPv6 to offer to ISPs). So some
Iranian ISPs have to buy IPv4 from other LIRs mostly based in other
countries (approx. 1milion IP per year) to be able to meet their network
growth needs. (Iran has 80milion population while the total IPv4 allocations
is around 10milion)

I think that redistributing additional blocks from the last /8 should be
based on some additional criteria and not every LIR should be entitled to
receive it. (for example if the first /22 has been sold by the LIR, no
additional block as the LIR has not a real need for that)

Developing countries with no IPv6 option have to use IPv4, the current
policies forced them to become a buyer and that create a good IPv4 market.

I support the idea of letting them receive additional blocks from RIPE NCC
directly for their own use.

Regards,

Arash Naderpour






Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 20:55:36 +0300
From: Staff <office at ip4market.ru>
To: address-policy-wg at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] Next steps for new LIRs
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Greetings!

Everybody should remember that market begins when some luck of resources
take place. Everybody want to force world to move to Ipv6 and forget about
the problems. But until IPv4 exists and it's possible to use it/get it/buy
it - and it's easier then to start Ipv6  - people will use IPv4.

If we will make harder to get IPv4 - the market will grow. But people who
discuss here - they don't want this market. So logicaly they need to allow
people use IPv4 and get them easy, but not harder.

Let's say give new LIR /21 (2048IP). It will be more then enough for several
years. And I will tell why. Becouse it will drop the market price low and
stop some speculations. And a lot of people will start selling resources
that they don't need. And people who need IPs - they will be able to get
enough from RIPE in standard way. There is no secrets here. Everything is
clear. If more people work in this clear and fair way - the more people will
offer own IPs for others.

There will be no luck of IPs. Just more redistribution.

What do community thinks?

Yuri