[address-policy-wg] Complaint and future of the APWG.

Hi

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Sebastian Wiesinger <sebastian at karotte.org>
wrote:

> * Lu Heng <h.lu at anytimechinese.com> [2015-06-11 13:03]:
> > Hi
> >
> > I agree with you no more personal attack should happening any more.
> >
> > *And to be very clear, I am not attacking Gert personally.*
>
> Yes you do. You're questioning his integrity.
>

No, I am not questioning his integrity, I am questioning Chair of APWG's
integrity, his integrity has nothing to do in this case, Chair of the APWG
is not a person, it is a position in the community to moderate and manage
the list. While I complaint about Chair of the APWG, why it has to become
personal to Gert?



> > *I am complaint about one of working group chair does not keep the level
> of
> > integrity as it should.*
>
> Gert is one of the few people I know that I trust completely regarding
> integrity. He proved me right again by letting Sander conclude this
> proposal so that neutrality is given.
>

I was not talking about his neutrality of this proposal. I was talking
about my personal information and company info getting posted in the list
while the Chair conclude it has relevance to the policy discussion.


> > It is fundamental difference, in personal level, I do like to be friend
> > with Gert and he of course feel free to like or dislike me. However as
> APWG
> > chair, I believe Chair should remain neutral on all ground but not
> judging
> > things based on personal preference as well as personal emotions.
>
> Noone can remain neutral on all grounds all the time. That is why he
> is not "judging" anything in this case. Sander is.
>

No one can, personally, but while you are in a position, then you should.
the person of you does not matter any more, rules apply to that position.


>
> > Let's not dive to far from what should be happening here, policy
> discussion.
>
> Back at you.
>
> Sebastian
>
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Kind regards.
Lu

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