<div dir="ltr">Hi<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Sebastian Wiesinger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sebastian@karotte.org" target="_blank">sebastian@karotte.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">* Lu Heng <<a href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</a>> [2015-06-11 13:03]:<br>
<span class="">> Hi<br>
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> I agree with you no more personal attack should happening any more.<br>
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</span>> *And to be very clear, I am not attacking Gert personally.*<br>
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Yes you do. You're questioning his integrity.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, I am not questioning his integrity, I am questioning Chair of APWG's integrity, his integrity has nothing to do in this case, <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14.4000005722046px">Chair of the APWG is not a person, it is a position in the community to moderate and manage the list. While I complaint about Chair of the APWG, why it has to become personal to Gert?</span> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> *I am complaint about one of working group chair does not keep the level of<br>
> integrity as it should.*<br>
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Gert is one of the few people I know that I trust completely regarding<br>
integrity. He proved me right again by letting Sander conclude this<br>
proposal so that neutrality is given.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I was not talking about his neutrality of this proposal. I was talking about my personal information and company info getting posted in the list while the Chair conclude it has relevance to the policy discussion. </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> It is fundamental difference, in personal level, I do like to be friend<br>
> with Gert and he of course feel free to like or dislike me. However as APWG<br>
> chair, I believe Chair should remain neutral on all ground but not judging<br>
> things based on personal preference as well as personal emotions.<br>
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</span>Noone can remain neutral on all grounds all the time. That is why he<br>
is not "judging" anything in this case. Sander is.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No one can, personally, but while you are in a position, then you should. the person of you does not matter any more, rules apply to that position.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> Let's not dive to far from what should be happening here, policy discussion.<br>
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</span>Back at you.<br>
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Sebastian<br>
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