[address-policy-wg] PDP issues

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Opteamax GmbH <ripe at opteamax.de> wrote:

> Sascha,
>
> On 10.06.2015 13:54, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
>
> > Which of the rationales in favour does a "+1" agree with?
> > Sometimes there is more than one.
> >
>
> The end-result which is the outcome of the proposal
>
> > You believe that a "fair and reasonable process" means that one
> > side is presumed to be 'right' and doesn't have to make any
> > argument? I have experienced this definition of "fair and
> > reasonable process " before and, believe me that is not somewhere
> > I wish to go back to.
>
> The proposal itself, before being presented to the mailinglist already
> has a history. One/Some people already spent quiet some time thinking
> about something which currently is not working and finding a way to make
> things better. They write down a documentation how they want to enhance
> the current policy. So saying "I understand what your arguments for a
> change are and feel that it is a good idea to adjust the policy as you
> described" (or shorthand: +1) imho *is* different then simply saying
> "what you write is bullshit".
>
> Actually each argumentation is starting with one side presenting their
> working hypothesis with a description on why and how they come to it and
> looking for supporters. It's the other side who needs to *explain* what
> is not ok with that hypothesis and why they speak *against* it, at that
> point. Because the reasoning *for* that hypothesis already exists.


And, case in point:

+1
-- 
Jan
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