[address-policy-wg] Comments on proposal 2014-04 (Remove the IPv6 Requirement for receiving address space)

Hi,

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:38:39PM +0100, Stefan Schiele wrote:
> I don't consider this argument as being addressed by simply asking the 
> RIPE NCC to send out clear signals that IPv6 is important. There is a 
> difference between being forced to request an IPv6 allocation to receive 
> IPv4 space from the final /8 and the RIPE NCC sending out some signals 
> regarding IPv6.

It is, but I have to make a decision how to go ahead if many members of
the community support the proposal, while a single argument is brought
in opposition - "stop the proposal" (which would mean "nothing gets 
anywhere, ever") or "understand the concerns and find a way that will
at least bring some compromise".

[..]
> The proposed policy change will speed up the shortage of IPv4 space; and 
> therefore I still strongly oppose this proposal.

It will not - people who want the last /22 for speculation can have it
today perfectly fine.  Forcing them to take a (free) /32 with it will
not make them more conservative - it sends a message ("hey! think of IPv6!")
and we can convey that message in other ways, too.

> By the way, this proposal would increase prices on the IPv4 transfer 
> market (due to it speeding up the shortening of the free IPv4 address 
> space); and that is generally nothing that's good for the community, either.

This is handwaving based on assumptions...


Anyway, there is a group working on a proposal to prevent exactly this:
speculation with the last /22 allocations ("open LIR, grab /22, sell it,
close LIR, open new LIR, ...").  The policy proposal discussed here has
really no influence on people that want to speculate - nothing stops them
form accepting the free /32 together with the /22, sell the /22, return
the /32, and close the LIR... 

Gert Doering
        -- APWG chair
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