[address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

> On application for IPv4 resources LIRs will receive IPv4 addresses according to the following:
> 
> The size of the allocation made will be exactly one /22.
> 
> The sum of all allocations made to a single LIR by the RIPE NCC after the 14th of September 2012 is limited to a maximum of 1024 IPv4 addresses (a single /22 or the equivalent thereof).
> 
> The LIR must confirm it will make assignment(s) from the allocation.

All this lines relates to receiving /22 from RIPE NCC! Not from other LIRs.

Please read all 5.1 st from ripe-643

So merging own LIRs or receiving /22 from other member is not violation.

23.04.2015, 15:39, "Opteamax GmbH" <ripe at opteamax.de>:
> On 23.04.2015 14:31, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
>>>   openig a bunch of LIR only for transfering their /22 V4 to another LIR
>>>   is - and always was - abusing the policy.
>>  Any links to documents proving it?
>
> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-643#51
>
> Number 3
>>>  but for me the way you are proposing to run a "business" is
>>>  almost the same as the one of a guy selling stolen stuff ...
>>  Such a comparison is incorrect.
>
> Maybe my comparison lacks do to difficulties translating into english:
> The guy selling the stuff does not (necessarily) know that the one he
> bought it from stole it. There are some of those shops, everybody know
> that they not ask where stuff comes from, but nobody can blame the
> shopowner ...
>
> Jens
>>  23.04.2015, 15:27, "Opteamax GmbH" <ripe at opteamax.de>:
>>>   Hello Gabriel,
>>>
>>>   openig a bunch of LIR only for transfering their /22 V4 to another LIR
>>>   is - and always was - abusing the policy. So you acutally don't want to
>>>   speak against the change of Transfer-Policy but want to keep the
>>>   backdoor open.
>>>
>>>   So if you think the last /8 policy is not OK - where consensus was
>>>   reached - you should stand up and make a change proposal for that.
>>>
>>>   Knowing the way to bypass policy still does not mean, that it is
>>>   fair/legal. IMHO LIRs which are willingly abusing policies shall get
>>>   their entire resources withdrawn immediately, as they are not willing to
>>>   be part of the community, so shall not profit from community.
>>>
>>>   Sorry, but for me the way you are proposing to run a "business" is
>>>   almost the same as the one of a guy selling stolen stuff ...
>>>
>>>   Regards
>>>   Jens
>>>
>>>   On 23.04.2015 14:05, Infinity Telecom SRL wrote:
>>>>    Hello Gert,
>>>>
>>>>    "at the transfer services"  i saw sellers that want 17-20 USD per IP,
>>>>     this is crazy, do you want forward ?
>>>>
>>>>    Do you think this is a normal ?
>>>>
>>>>    If right now they ask soo much even when they know someone like me can
>>>>    open a new LIR an close after 1 year.
>>>>
>>>>    What will happen when someone like me will open a LIR and pay 2 yrs
>>>>    before to move the IPs  to the old LIR
>>>>
>>>>    I tell you what will happen,  the sellers will put another 5-7 USD per
>>>>    IP, for sure.
>>>>
>>>>    Most of the guys that are pro this proposal have large blocks for sell..
>>>>
>>>>    I dont have large blocks.. i want to keep my IPs and have more resource..
>>>>
>>>>    Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>    /--
>>>>    Cu stima,
>>>>    Gabriel Voitis | Sales Manager
>>>>    /voitis at infinitytelecom.ro <mailto:voitis at infinitytelecom.ro>
>>>>
>>>>    /INFINITY TELECOM SRL  |  Bd-ul Iuliu Maniu nr 7, Corp A, Scara 2
>>>>    Mobil: +40 0725 677 477  |  Tel: +40 021 7808805  |  Fax: +40 021 7808806
>>>>    /contact at infinitytelecom.ro <mailto:contact at infinitytelecom.ro>
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>>>   Jens Ott
>>>
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>>  With best regards, Vladimir Andreev
>>  General director, QuickSoft LLC
>>  Tel: +7 903 1750503
>>
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> Jens Ott
>
> Opteamax GmbH
>
> Simrockstr. 4b
> 53619 Rheinbreitbach
>
> Tel.:  +49 2224 969500
> Fax:   +49 2224 97691059
> Email: jo at opteamax.de
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Tel: +7 903 1750503