[address-policy-wg] [Ticket#2014072801005573] [ncc-services-wg] Crimea papers

Max,
    I unterstund that you are not very happy what happend last time. This is
very bad situation for all people. We are not politics. Our community help 
people work. Axel suggested very smart solution - any paper from any
goverment. I support this position. This is neutral decussion, which allow
people work in Internet.
  --

 Aleksei

28.07.2014 22:26 - Max Tulyev написал(а): Hi Gert,

for my knowlege, there was NO democratic decision, at least becuse of
all international observers (excepr Russian, of course) said the vote
itself was totally fake, but I'm not about it now.

NO GOVERMENT IN THE WORLD, including Dutch one, accepted Crimea is a
part of Russia. So why RIPE NCC does?

If papers issued by Russian goverment in Crimea is acceptable because it
is good for some members, can RIPE NCC accept same papers issued in
Crimea say Principality of Sealand goverment as well?

And the main question: Has RIPE NCC legal rights to accept that kind of
documents at all? What RIPE NCC lawyers say?

On 28.07.14 21:04, Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 08:57:12PM +0300, Max Tulyev wrote:
>> So RIPE NCC accepts Russian authorities have rights in Crimea region,
>> i.e. accepts Crimea is a part of Russia?
>
> Max, what are you trying to achieve?  There is no good answer to that
> question.  
>
> Depending which media outlet you decide to believe, crimean people decided
> to be part of Russia all on their own (which sounds quite legit to me),
> in a democratic decision - or it was an annection by Russia (not overly
> legit, but has happened in the past).  This is not something the RIPE NCC
> can solve, and I think Axel's answer was as salomonic as possible: the NCC
> serves it's *members*, not any government in particular.
>
> Gert Doering
>         -- NetMaster
>

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