[address-policy-wg] Use of the Reserved IP Pool

Hi,

El 03/07/2014 17:16, Gert Doering escribió:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 04:52:14PM +0200, Dpto. Datos Television Costa Blanca wrote:
>> Oh please, stop that. I just only said that 5 or 6 ppl is not
>> consensous. If you all wish, I did the math. 7 (counting you) of 3000 is
>> 0.23% and the list have more than 3k subscribers. Im not going that way
>> because if we start with that, not a single proposal would be accepted.
> You'll *have* to go that way, as this is the way RIPE policy making works.
>
> Only actual statements are evaluated, and if all you get is 7 people
> disagreeing with the idea, it does not matter if 100, 3000, or 5 million
> other people do not say anything about it.
>
> If you look at the archives, you'll see that it's quite different for
> different proposals - some ideas get much/only positive feedback right
> away (and in that case, 5 people telling us "yeah, go for it!" is also
> clear enough, as 2995 others do not find it necessary to say "I'm against
> it! stop!"), other ideas cause long discussions, eventually leading to
> the opponents being convinced - and yet other proposals come up, get
> strong headwind, and are withdrawn because it's clear that there is not
> enough support.
>
> This is not voting, this is "rough consensus", similar to RFC7282.
You understand me wrong. Im saying just what you are saying. Not 
everybody on the list will vote, negative or positive. I know that and 
Im ok with that. Im not trying to do that way. I only said that if in 2 
days, only a few said no there is no consensous. At least not only in 2 
days of topic.

When I started the topic, few months ago, as far I can remember I 
stopped it until IANA return the space and see if we reach a /8 
(somebody said we will not be even close) and then see what we do about 
it. I have a mess with Thunderbird and it crashes everytime I search for 
the emails, so I cant copy&paste or take a look now (still trying) but I 
remember that.
IANA returned the space, we now have more than a /8 what makes me 
think... Its then the last /8 proposal invalid since now we have more 
than a /8? Didnt read the full proposal, and to be honest, I'll probably 
cant understand it in their totallity so if anyone can answer me that 
would be awesome.

Kind Regards,

-- 
Daniel Baeza
Centro de Observación de Red
Dpto. Internet y Telefonía
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