[address-policy-wg] [Ticket#2014072901004581] 2014-02 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Allow IPv4 PI transfer [...]

Dear Andre,

> This might work for IPv4 - you will violate policies if you still
> address end-users with these addresses and risk de-registration. 

Do you know any fact of de-registration? 

> But for IPv6 this is a different story. Getting IPv6 PI space in a block
that is
> greater than /48 you need to provide documentation. And I doubt you can
> "fake" documentiation that will give you the resources you need. If all
> your competitors give customers a /48 you will want to do that as-well.
> Or even with /56, there are only 256 of those in a /48. So if you want
> to participate in the market you we'll need PA IPv6 and therefore need
> to be a LIR anyway.    
IPv6 is another story. We charge very small money for IPv6 network and
customers usualy use IPv6 in right way.
 
> What is ~1300€ in your yearly budget compared to equipment,
> transit/backhaul and operating costs? I would not think it is significant...

Some startups have very low amount of money. 
  --

 Aleksei

04.08.2014 15:59 - Andre Keller написал(а): Hi Aleksei,

On 08/04/2014 01:40 PM, LeaderTelecom Ltd. wrote:
> It can drop amount of LIRs, while much cheaper to find PI - pay one time fee
> to owner and then return PA space and cancel contract as LIR. I understund
> difference PA & PI, but as I told - real customers often uses PI as PA.    

This might work for IPv4 - you will violate policies if you still
address end-users with these addresses and risk de-registration. But for
IPv6 this is a different story. Getting IPv6 PI space in a block that is
greater than /48 you need to provide documentation. And I doubt you can
"fake" documentiation that will give you the resources you need. If all
your competitors give customers a /48 you will want to do that as-well.
Or even with /56, there are only 256 of those in a /48. So if you want
to participate in the market you we'll need PA IPv6 and therefore need
to be a LIR anyway.

What is ~1300€ in your yearly budget compared to equipment,
transit/backhaul and operating costs? I would not think it is significant...

g
Andre
 
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