<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/></head><body style="font-family:Geneva,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Dear <span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:monospace,fixed">Andre,</span><br />
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> This might work for IPv4 - you will violate policies if you still<br />
> address end-users with these addresses and risk de-registration. <br />
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Do you know any fact of de-registration? <br />
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> But for IPv6 this is a different story. Getting IPv6 PI space in a block that is<br />
> greater than /48 you need to provide documentation. And I doubt you can<br />
> "fake" documentiation that will give you the resources you need. If all<br />
> your competitors give customers a /48 you will want to do that as-well.<br />
> Or even with /56, there are only 256 of those in a /48. So if you want<br />
> to participate in the market you we'll need PA IPv6 and therefore need<br />
> to be a LIR anyway.
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IPv6 is another story. We charge very small money for IPv6 network and customers usualy use IPv6 in right way.</div>
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> What is ~1300€ in your yearly budget compared to equipment,<br />
> transit/backhaul and operating costs? I would not think it is significant...<br />
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Some startups have very low amount of money. <br />
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<div>Aleksei</div>
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04.08.2014 15:59 - Andre Keller написал(а):
<div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt" type="cite">Hi Aleksei,<br />
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On 08/04/2014 01:40 PM, LeaderTelecom Ltd. wrote:<br />
> It can drop amount of LIRs, while much cheaper to find PI - pay one time fee<br />
> to owner and then return PA space and cancel contract as LIR. I understund<br />
> difference PA & PI, but as I told - real customers often uses PI as PA. <br />
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This might work for IPv4 - you will violate policies if you still<br />
address end-users with these addresses and risk de-registration. But for<br />
IPv6 this is a different story. Getting IPv6 PI space in a block that is<br />
greater than /48 you need to provide documentation. And I doubt you can<br />
"fake" documentiation that will give you the resources you need. If all<br />
your competitors give customers a /48 you will want to do that as-well.<br />
Or even with /56, there are only 256 of those in a /48. So if you want<br />
to participate in the market you we'll need PA IPv6 and therefore need<br />
to be a LIR anyway.<br />
<br />
What is ~1300€ in your yearly budget compared to equipment,<br />
transit/backhaul and operating costs? I would not think it is significant...<br />
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g<br />
Andre<br />
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