[address-policy-wg] 2013-03 New Policy Proposal (No Need - Post-Depletion Reality Adjustment and Cleanup)

While I support the goals of 2013-03 in a post-IPv4-depletion world, we are
currently in an uncomfortable intermediate state where IPv4 depletion has
occurred in some regions (RIPE and APNIC) but not in others (ARIN, LACNIC,
and AfriNIC).  I think it will be wise to wait until IPv4 depletion to
remove of (at least some) needs requirements in those regions that still
have an IPv4 free pool.

As a result of the fact of remaining RIR free pools, and the current policy
and sentiment in the ARIN region that inter-RIR IPv4 transfers should occur
only to organizations/regions that justify need for the addresses (to avoid
a run on said free pool), I think it would be wise to do something like
this:

 - First, pass an inter-RIR transfer policy in the RIPE region that is
compatible with both the APNIC and ARIN inter-RIR transfer policies (i.e.
has some form of needs justification).
 - Second, make sure that RIPE's transfer policy serves all organizations
in the RIPE region, including those who in the past got PI space from RIPE.
 - Third, relax the ARIN region's inter-RIR transfer policy such that after
IPv4 depletion in the ARIN region, transfers are allowed to regions with
policies like 2013-03.
 - Fourth, pass something along the lines of 2013-03 in the RIPE region (to
take effect) after IPv4 depletion has occurred in the ARIN region.
 - Fifth, update policy in other regions as well to align policy with the
needs of a post-IPv4-depletion world.

I'm more than happy to help drive #3 and eventually #5 in the ARIN region.

-Scott



On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:33 AM, <sandrabrown at ipv4marketgroup.com> wrote:

> > You can find the full proposal at:
> >
> > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2013-03
> >
> > We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to
> > <address-policy-wg at ripe.net> before 16 April 2013.
>
> Support.
>
> This goal of 2012-03 was to align the justification period with the
> other RIR's who allow inter-RIR transfers.  Tore's proposal 2013-03 will
> remove justification altogether, which is what all the RIR's need to do.
>  The reason I went with a 24 month justification period in 2012-03 was
> because that was the period APNIC and ARIN use.  I was hopeful that this
> would align the RIPE such that when transfers to and from those RIR's
> were considered, they would be allowed, because the RIPE would have a
> "like" policy.
>
> Tore's policy may have the impact of bringing ALL the RIR's into the
> current market reality:  that when an entity is paying for IP's, that is
> needs justification enough.  There is no hoarding in an unencumbered
> market.  RIPE is demonstrating true world leadership here.
>
> Sandra Brown
>
>
>
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