<div dir="ltr">While I support the goals of 2013-03 in a post-IPv4-depletion world, we are currently in an uncomfortable intermediate state where IPv4 depletion has occurred in some regions (RIPE and APNIC) but not in others (ARIN, LACNIC, and AfriNIC). 狢 think it will be wise to wait until IPv4 depletion to remove of (at least some) needs requirements in those regions that still have an IPv4 free pool.<div>
<br></div><div>As a result of the fact of remaining RIR free pools, and the current policy and sentiment in the ARIN region that inter-RIR IPv4 transfers should occur only to organizations/regions that justify need for the addresses (to avoid a run on said free pool), I think it would be wise to do something like this:</div>
<div><br></div><div style>�- First, pass an inter-RIR transfer policy in the RIPE region that is compatible with both the APNIC and ARIN inter-RIR transfer policies (i.e. has some form of needs justification).</div><div style>
�- Second, make sure that RIPE's transfer policy serves all organizations in the RIPE region, including those who in the past got PI space from RIPE.</div><div style>�- Third, relax the ARIN region's inter-RIR transfer policy such that after IPv4 depletion in the ARIN region, transfers are allowed to regions with policies like 2013-03.</div>
<div style>�- Fourth, pass something along the lines of 2013-03 in the RIPE region (to take effect) after IPv4 depletion has occurred in the ARIN region.</div><div style>�- Fifth, update policy in other regions as well to align policy with the needs of a post-IPv4-depletion world.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>I'm more than happy to help drive #3 and eventually #5 in the ARIN region.</div><div style><br></div><div style>-Scott</div><div style><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:33 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sandrabrown@ipv4marketgroup.com" target="_blank">sandrabrown@ipv4marketgroup.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">> You can find the full proposal at:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2013-03" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2013-03</a><br>
><br>
> We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to<br>
> <<a href="mailto:address-policy-wg@ripe.net">address-policy-wg@ripe.net</a>> before 16 April 2013.<br>
<br>
</div>Support.<br>
<br>
This goal of 2012-03 was to align the justification period with the<br>
other RIR's who allow inter-RIR transfers. �Tore's proposal 2013-03 will<br>
remove justification altogether, which is what all the RIR's need to do.<br>
�The reason I went with a 24 month justification period in 2012-03 was<br>
because that was the period APNIC and ARIN use. 狢 was hopeful that this<br>
would align the RIPE such that when transfers to and from those RIR's<br>
were considered, they would be allowed, because the RIPE would have a<br>
"like" policy.<br>
<br>
Tore's policy may have the impact of bringing ALL the RIR's into the<br>
current market reality: 慯hat when an entity is paying for IP's, that is<br>
needs justification enough. �There is no hoarding in an unencumbered<br>
market. 袠IPE is demonstrating true world leadership here.<br>
<br>
Sandra Brown<br>
<br>
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