[address-policy-wg] 2013-03 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (No Need - Post-Depletion Reality Adjustment and Clean up)

On 04/08/2013 16:48, Tore Anderson wrote:
> In a similar vein, and somewhat tongue in cheek: If you're trying to buy
> an apartment, but get outbid by someone, do you get upset unless you can
> see some proof that guy did buy it plans on moving in there? Or do you
> assume that's probably the case and move on?

We got something in France that is called the right to housing.
The question is not, of course, but is not fully disconnected of knowing
if does Ripe wants to tend to protect the public right of weaks to get
a place.

You asked repetedly here for precise statements to explain how 2013-03
would, on its own, make things worse. And you explained many times that
wrong things could already be done independantly from 2013-03 being
accepted or not.

Things cannot be split that way in my mind.

My point is, that 2013-03 is part of a much larger evolution that is
progressively making the deal completely different. I cannot help but
consider thinks together and observe a general move that breaches
yesterday's principles :
- the ability to resell IPv4 allocations
- the proposal to allow v4 PI changed to PA (aggregation breach)
- the suppression of the conservation goal
- the documentation need removal

To me, the general picture looks like is that considerable ground is
given to a fully commercial hand over the public ressource management.

This seems to be motivated by kind of a hurry to get rid of the burden
of the IPv4 administrative work. Which I feel hard to understand since
lots of operators still need a proper and fair ressource attribution to
continue or to start their business today (which is being more critical
because of scarcity) and also because Ripe members still pay membership
fees to finance it.

Sorry I went quite far from simple 2013-03 discussion here. However
reducing the discussion field does not allow to build a global policy
that is consistent and has a coherent philosophy, I think.

Best regards,
Sylvain







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> Tore
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