[address-policy-wg] Proposal 2011-02 moving to Last Call

Hi Mike,

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se>wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Michel Py wrote:
>
>  I hate to sound brutal, but why should I believe that you will find the
>> Holy Grail that everyone else has been searching for over the last 15 years?
>> I heard it all, I wrote part of it. There is NO solution to make renumbering
>> easy and there is NO solution nearly as good as PI for multihoming.
>>
>
> I am well aware of this.
>
>
>  Stop the vaporware. What you want does not exist. Unlike the IETF, ARIN
>>
>
> I never said it did.
>
>
>  I'm tired of hearing "we need to". I have been hearing this for 15 years,
>> enough of this. Oh, BTW, I tried too. You don't have anything; when you do,
>> deliver it and come back to us.
>>
>
> We still need to in the long term. IPv6 PI, ie keeping state for all
> end-users in all DFZ routers on the Internet, does not scale with billions
> of routes.
>
> So yes, there is no solution right now, that doesn't mean IPv6 PI is any
> kind of long term solution.


Yes, fully agree here.


> We know it's bad, we still use it because there is no better way right now.
> That doesn't mean we should give up.
>
> It's again tragedy of the commons. For the individual user, PI is always
> the easiest way out. For humanity/Internet as a whole in the long term, not
> so much.
>
> But let's get IPv6 implemented, a few hundred thousand more routes doesn't
> really matter, as long as they don't turn into many millions.
>
> I realy would like to know what makes you so optimistic? While you think so
that a few hundred thousands more routes doesn!t really matter?

Which kind of routers/line cards could support this at wire speed? Any
summary of convergence issues in large scale network?

Am I missed some new technology that is already implemented allmost
everywhere?



>
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at swm.pp.se
>
> I would be glad to receive additional information here, if this exists,
please share it!

Many thanks,

Géza
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