[address-policy-wg] IPv6 PI resource question!

And SUB-ALLOCATED PA space can be independently routed, if you really don't want to become a LIR; but of course it's dependent on maintaining a relationship with a friendly LIR...

Kind regards
Jamie Stallwood

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-----Original Message-----
From: address-policy-wg-admin at ripe.net on behalf of Sander Steffann
Sent: Mon 14/02/2011 14:44
To: Yasen Simeonov(Neterra NMT)
Cc: address-policy-wg at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] IPv6 PI resource question!
 
Hi Yasen,

> Thanks for the replay.
> I think this should be reevaluated!

Can you give your reasons to reevaluate this? The way it currently works is that if you delegate addresses to your customers you must be an LIR. Why and how should that be changed in your opinion?

>> With IPv6 you don't give every user one IP address (which would be your infrastructure), but you usually assign them a block of addresses. For making assignments to end-users you need a PA block. And: there is no 'your infrastructure' rule for IPv6. That is only defined for IPv4.
> Is that mean that the ISPs should make an entry in the RIPE's database for each household to which gives access to the Internet?

No, that is not necessary. A policy proposal that describes what you can do has just been accepted (http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2010-06).

> How would you advise a small ISP in a small rural area which has no financial ability to pay the fee for becoming LIR,
> to be independent from the upstream provider ?

The problem here is that this financial barrier can not be resolved here. The RIPE NCC membership fee is set by the RIPE NCC General Meeting, not here.

> What would be the reason a company that deals with Internet delivery can not get a PI IPv6 resources, but a company which is engaged in other activity can get it.

An ISP can still get PI addresses. You just can't delegate addresses from PI space to customers. You need PA space for that.

- Sander



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