<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 6.5.7638.1"> <TITLE>RE: [address-policy-wg] IPv6 PI resource question!</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY>  <TT>And SUB-ALLOCATED PA space can be independently routed, if you really don't want to become a LIR; but of course it's dependent on maintaining a relationship with a friendly LIR... Kind regards Jamie Stallwood -- Jamie Stallwood Security Specialist Imerja Limited Tel: 07795 840385 jamie.stallwood@imerja.com -----Original Message----- From: address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net on behalf of Sander Steffann Sent: Mon 14/02/2011 14:44 To: Yasen Simeonov(Neterra NMT) Cc: address-policy-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] IPv6 PI resource question! Hi Yasen, > Thanks for the replay. > I think this should be reevaluated! Can you give your reasons to reevaluate this? The way it currently works is that if you delegate addresses to your customers you must be an LIR. Why and how should that be changed in your opinion? >> With IPv6 you don't give every user one IP address (which would be your infrastructure), but you usually assign them a block of addresses. For making assignments to end-users you need a PA block. And: there is no 'your infrastructure' rule for IPv6. That is only defined for IPv4. > Is that mean that the ISPs should make an entry in the RIPE's database for each household to which gives access to the Internet? No, that is not necessary. A policy proposal that describes what you can do has just been accepted (<A HREF="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2010-06">http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2010-06</A>). > How would you advise a small ISP in a small rural area which has no financial ability to pay the fee for becoming LIR, > to be independent from the upstream provider ? The problem here is that this financial barrier can not be resolved here. The RIPE NCC membership fee is set by the RIPE NCC General Meeting, not here. > What would be the reason a company that deals with Internet delivery can not get a PI IPv6 resources, but a company which is engaged in other activity can get it. An ISP can still get PI addresses. You just can't delegate addresses from PI space to customers. You need PA space for that. - Sander </TT> Finalist – Network Computing Awards 2011 – Reseller of the Year – <a href="http://www.networkcomputingawards.co.uk/">VOTE FOR IMERJA</a> Winner - Crain's Manchester Business Best Places to Work 2010 Winner - MicroScope ACEs Public Sector Reseller of the Year 2010 Winner - Check Point EMEA Endpoint Partner Award CPX2010 Winner - Institute of Directors NW Ackroyd Award for Corporate Social Responsibility 2009 Deloitte EMEA Fast 500 Company 2009 and 2010 Imerja Limited Tel: 0870 8611488 | Fax: 0870 8611489 | 24x7 ISOC: 0870 8611490 | Web: www.imerja.com Registered Office: Paragon House, Paragon Business Park, Chorley New Road, Horwich, Bolton BL6 6HG Registered in England and Wales No. 5180119 VAT Registered No. 845 0647 22 ISO Registered Firm No. GB2001527 P Do you need to print this email? Please consider the environment. This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or organisation to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s) you should not use, copy, distribute or take any action or reliance on it, since to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by email reply and delete it from your system. E-mail messages are not secure and attachments could contain software viruses which may damage your system. Whilst every reasonable precaution has been taken to minimise this risk, Imerja Limited cannot accept any liability for any damage sustained as a result of these factors. You are advised to carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not represent those of Imerja Limited unless otherwise stated. </BODY> </HTML>