[address-policy-wg] Revised 2007-01 moved back to Review Period(Direct Internet Resource Assignments to End Users from the RIPE NCC)

Sascha and all,

  Sure changing policies can be done on a daily basis.  But what
does that say for stability?  Not much IMO.  Setting a good long
term policy is far better and again IMHO, necessary.

Sascha Lenz wrote:

> Hi altogether,
>
> Gert Doering schrieb:
> > Hi APWG folks,
> >
> > this proposal keep being difficult for our processes.
> >
> > We got a rebound from the WG chair collective, because they felt that
> > there was no explicit consensus for version *2* of the proposal, which had
> > some signficant changes (inclusion of ERX in the text).
> >
> > Now this is v3, trying to work out the last wrinkles, and get it through
> > the process properly, and we got *NO* comments on it.
> >
> > "No comments" does not mean "consensus".  It means "nobody is interested,
> > leave us alone with this".
> >
> > I think that this is a very important milestone, and it needs good backing
> > by the community (or if you don't want it, it should be explicitely torn
> > down).
> >
> > The main difference v2 -> v3 is that ERX space has been completely taken
> > out [because RIPE has no legal basis to enforce anything - we'll come back
> > to this with a new proposal], and that there is a *new* document that
> > describes what to do with existing end-user assignments - which has exactly
> > the same intent as v2, but we can't put requirements for existing assignments
> > into a "new assignments" documents, so this needed cleaning up.
> >
> > So - please read the documents, as referenced in Ana's mail below, and then
> > explicitely voice agreement or disagreement with 2007-01 v3.
> >
> > thanks,
> [...]
>
> the PDP we have starts to annoy me over this proposal.
> Very sad.
>
> My clear p.o.v., as private netizen, as consultant and as LIR still is:
>
> We need a contractual relationship in those cases we're talking about
> here. So i still support this proposal - "2007-01 v3", even though i'm a
> little unhappy about all the redesigns and the political debate around it.
>
> I still have one or two issues with the details, too (like we still
> don't have actual NUMBERS as in $$$ etc.), but i'm not that self-centric
> to stop the whole process about that.
> If there's a problem, we can start again from there, AFTER THIS IS
> FINALLY IMPLEMENTED. Policies can be CHANGED again guys... politicians
> do it all the time...
>
> PLEASE go on with this, now. It's a start at least.
>
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> = Sascha Lenz                  SLZ-RIPE          slz at baycix.de         =
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