[address-policy-wg] Re: [ppml] article about IPv6 vs firewalls vs NAT in arstechnica (seen on slashdot)

Hi

On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:58:55AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
> >Do you think this should not be decided by an RFC, but rather as a  
> >global
> >policy through each of the RIRs?
> >
> I am not sure.  I kind of like Tony's (malformed) suggestion that ULA- 
> C should
> come with PI.  If the qualifications for ULA-C were the same, or, if  
> ULA-C was
> only available to orgs. that had PI, I think that would be acceptable.

I can't really understand the reasoning behind that.  What are you
trying to achieve, why do you want to restrict handing out ULA-C to
only a specific (small) subset of folks out there?

I'd take a much simpler approach - install a one-time setup fee, which
will prevent folks from just grabbing 10000s of ULA-C prefixes, and then
just hand them out to whoever wants some (and pays the handling fee).

There's enough /48s in that /8 so that the risk of running out is 
really low - if there is some mechanism to limit the amount of prefixes
a single entity can request.  Money works well for that, usually.

[..]
> Not sure about that.  I do support the idea of ULA-Central as intended,
> but, I'd have to see a policy or RFC that implemented it in such a way
> that I had reasonable confidence it wouldn't become "the easy way to
> get PI".  If we're going to do that, I'd rather do it by relaxing the  
> PI policy
> than by designating some "nudge nudge wink wink" address space.

ULA-C becomes PI the moment folks will accept it in their routing table
(and if that is a serious risk, ULA-L could as easily become PI the same 
way).  But why should routing folks do that?

I, for one, hereby state that I will not route other folks ULA space
on AS5539.  Period.

Gert Doering
        -- APWG chair
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